Talk:Battle of Köse Dağ/GA1

GA Review

Passed. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 22:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Premeditated Chaos (talk · contribs) 01:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bug me if I don't finish within the week. Cheers! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for picking it up PMC; I'd love to get this promoted before the WikiCup finishes at the end of the month. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming you're going to FAC with this in the future, so looking from that POV. Won't hold up promotion on anything outside the GACR however.

Suggest linking Anatolia, I know we don't always link locations but as it's not a modern country I think you're better off doing it
- Done.
I'm not sure "cordial relations" is the right phrase for "busy kicking someone else's ass", even if it is obliquely funny
- Adjusted.
On the other hand, "dismantled" is hilariously dry for "kicked the stuffing out of"
Mild nitpick, "even both" might be better as "possibly both"
- I thought that sounded wrong.
"Relations deteriorated" - On doing my spot check, it seems like this is more complicated than it's put here. I can see why you've elided things at the GA level but I think FAC might look for some more detail (in this instance, Atwood and Melwille seem to differ on whether or not Kaykhusraw actually agreed to submit. Atwood says the Mongols were exerting pressure on him to do so around 1240, while Melville says Kaykhusraw agreed to submit but the Mongols attacked anyway for their own reasons before Kaykhusraw's Mongol overseer showed up)
- I'll keep that in mind if I take it further.
All that being said - Kaykhusraw needles the Mongols, rebuffs their ambassadors, then attacks them without his entire army? Was he profesionally stupid?
- Classic blunder—trying to start a land war in Asia. Of course, the Mongols did it, so he may have thought he had a chance.
Do we know what Kaykhusraw did after he fled? And/or how he died?
- I'd guess that he returned to central Anatolia after the peace was arranged, but I can't find anything about that.

That's it for prose commentary, this is pretty tidy so not much to gripe about.

Sources are reliable and appropriately used. Spot checks on those I could access turned up no issues. Jackson and Peacock checked out fully. Atwood and Melville are sometimes a bit complicated in the details, but I think the summaries are appropriate for GA. Images are used appropriately, and either freely licensed or old. No other GACR concerns. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review Premeditated Chaos! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! Happy to see this pass. I really enjoy your ability to make historical people and battles engaging. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:28, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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