Talk:Basset horn

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Photo

Could anyone make a photo of a modern basset horn? Their look has changed quite a bit over the last 200 years... -- megA (talk) 15:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many people have photographed modern basset horns. There is a photo of Suzanne Stephens holding one, which appears on her Wikipedia article as well as here. It was taken in May 1988 at rehearsals of Stockhausen's Montag aus Licht at La Scala, in Milan. Are you suggesting that such a photo might enhance this article?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 21:37, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the image, on the assumption that was the idea. There are two further photos of modern instruments on Wikimedia Commons, both showing the basset horn amongst other sizes of clarinets, and both of German groups. One shows only the upper half of the instrument, the other photo was taken at some distance from the stage. In neither case can the maker of the basset horn be determined.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the additions. I don't know if we need both the 18th and 19th century pictures, (I'm actually unhappy whth the drawing) and the "modern" version is of course a bit difficult to make out ~~with such a beautiful distraction~~, but I think as the (currently) best picture of a contemporary basset horn, it is a good addition. I still hope for a basset hornist reading this and taking the time to take a "encyclopedic" picture of his instrument... -- megA (talk) 15:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the 19th-century drawing is a bit disappointing. There is another alternative on Commons (taken from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica), showing two instruments, but it isn't really any better. On the other hand, I think it is useful to show a design between the 18th century and modern versions, because it helps in seeing the transition from earlier to latest. The portrait of Suzanne Stephens, though not showing the instrument as clearly as might be desirable, does have the advantage of also illustrating the section on performers connected with the instrument. Perhaps that section should be expanded to include jazz and popular-music performers who play the basset horn, such as Etienne Rolin (who can be seen in the foreground of a photo toward the bottom of the article on Theo Jörgensmann—one of the two photos on Commons that I mentioned).—Jerome Kohl (talk) 16:18, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a good idea to mention artists who use it notably. The photograph isn't really very informative as far as the instrument is concerned (impressive contrabass clarinet, tough...), but I think there are enough photos anyway now. -- megA (talk) 22:07, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a clarinetist but I should think a discussion of the various registers, (chalumeau, throat tones, clarino etc,) of the basset horn and how they compare to those of the clarinet would be useful. 43hellokitty21 (talk) 03:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that Forsyth's story

that the basset horn is so named because of a clarinet-maker surnamed "Horn", is rather discredited by now? Pity... Schissel | Sound the Note! 10:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"basset"

In the article, I see some discussion on the "horn" part of the name. But what about the "basset" part? What does it mean? I assume no relation to basset hounds? :-) 46.121.71.138 (talk) 11:04, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to the OED, it is an anglicized form of the French bassette (in various senses, "a small stool", "small bass viol"), the diminutive of basse (= English "bass"), therefore "somewhat low". "Basset hound" also has the same derivation, because of the animal's short legs. Perhaps this should be added to the article. Thanks for bringing this up.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 00:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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To User:Jerome Kohl: Why composers should be not remarkable in the info box? --Gisel (talk) 10:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Remarkable" is not really the right word. Any composer included there ought to be notable. In the present case, we have Alessandro Rolla, for example, who is scarcely remarkable (in fact, I had never before even heard of him), but at least has a Wikipedia biographical article, which indicates that someone has been able to find sufficient sources to demonstrate notability. The names I deleted had no Wikipedia biographies, and I did check German, French, and Italian Wikipedias as well as the English one. I believe I put a pointer in my edit summary to the essay WP:WTAF. If not, then I have put it here now. It is not a policy or even a guideline, but I recommend it because it saves me trying to put 500 words into an edit summary.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]