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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 01:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bartow–Pell Mansion
Bartow–Pell Mansion

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 16:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bartow–Pell Mansion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Well done - the image is clear and free, the qpq is done. The article is neutral and cited. ALT0 is interesting, confirmed and cited in the article. The article was expanded from 2009 characters to 34,756 and it was nominated within the time period. Note: Earwig is not working for me today so this will need to be checked. Bruxton (talk) 15:22, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Earwig is now working - 18%. Bruxton (talk) 20:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Robert Bartow

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The lede says that "Robert Bartow, a descendant of Thomas Pell, built the third and current house at some point between 1836 and 1842", but the Thomas Pell article says that Pell died without children. One of these things can't be true – please could someone with knowledge of the subject check? Brammers (talk/c) 22:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: forgot to say, super article. It was a pleasure to read. Good luck with the GA nom. Brammers (talk/c) 22:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing this up, and sorry for my delay in responding. Yeah, the NY Times article technically says that Bartow was a descendant of Pell, but I think he was not a direct descendant; rather, Bartow would most likely have been descended from the Pell family through Thomas Pell's brother. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:15, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Bartow–Pell Mansion/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 01:43, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: CosXZ (talk · contribs) 17:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Comments

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Image and source review

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Overal this passes 2B CosXZ (talk) 22:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig

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Earwig Shows 18.7% CosXZ (talk) 16:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2nd opinion

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@Epicgenius: I am requesting for 2nd opinion for the rest of the criteria. Cos (X + Z) 04:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CosXZ I may be able to help, but it's not clear what specifically you're asking for a 2O on. RoySmith (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1A, 1B, 2C, 3A, 3B, and 4 of the criteria. Cos (X + Z) 23:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that's a lot for a 2O, but I'm happy to pitch in as I can.
  • 1A: The prose meets the WP:GACR of "clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct". If this eventually finds its way to WP:FAC, however, I'd prefer to see a more flowing style adopted in order to meet the WP:FACR of being "engaging". There's a lot of runs of short simple declarative sentences such as Orchard Beach is across the lagoon. A hiking path called the Siwanoy Trail loops around the estate. The nearest New York City Subway station is the Pelham Bay Park station, located across the Hutchinson River. Bee-Line Bus's 45 route also stops outside the estate. This would read better with more varied sentence structure.
    • When the house was renovated by the IGC in 1915, the right or south wing of the house contained an "orangery" for serving tea. Does that mean the orangery was there when the renovation was started, or that it was added during the renovation?
    • The infobox says "Shore Road North", why the "North"?
  • 1B: Manual of style, no problems.
  • 2C: Original research, no problems.
  • 3A: Addresses the main aspects, no problems.
  • 3B: Stays focused, no problems.
  • 4: Neutral, no problems.
OK, back to you @CosXZ RoySmith (talk) 21:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @RoySmith for helpin' with the review Cos (X + Z) 21:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]