Talk:Barry Popik

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Long-distance judge?

Barry Popik and wife, Angie, were long-time Manhattan residents, but the Popiks now live in Austin, Texas.

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Since 1990, Popik has served as a New York City administrative law judge in the Parking Violations Bureau of the City's Department of Finance.

If he now lives in Austin, can he still be an administrative law judge in NYC? I suspect something here needs updating, and it certainly needs clarification.--Jim10701 (talk) 03:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Updated. His web site says he "now lives in Texas" (entry dated July 03, 2004). -- Thnidu (talk) 16:53, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

I have to question the notability of this article, based on the following guidelines:

"If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article."

Significant Coverage : Popik appears to only be the direct subject of one listed source. Of this source, he is only the subject of one of the forty chapters about various Americans and their unusual hobbies.

Reliable : All of the sources appear to be reliable

Sources : Aside from the above mentioned chapter, there are only two secondary sources, both of which seem to mention Popik trivially.

Independent of the subject : One of the sources was written by Popik himself and, therefore, cannot be included in his notability.

Presumed : I am of the personal opinion that Popik is a significant person among some circles, but not notable enough to warrant inclusion into Wikipedia unless more sources can be provided.168.158.220.3 (talk) 23:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. The whole article sounds like it was written by someone who knows the guy really well. Too well. (Lots of) big predicates; very small subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.228.6.74 (talk) 15:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I say "give the guy a break!" (Or "cut the guy some slack".) One day he could even be a "somebody", probably much like I wanted once to be.TheBBgun (talk) 01:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.134.130 (talk) [reply]

Well on that day the article's existence would be warranted. But that day is not this day. LaymansLinguist (talk) 09:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

book The Origin of...

I've deleted the credit under Publications for "Co-author, The Origin of New York City's Nickname "The Big Apple" (forthcoming 2006)". It is now less than a week until 2011 and the book does not seem to have appeared, nor can I find it listed on his website. -- Thnidu (talk) 16:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Validity of qualifications?

Both of the examples of his expertise that are cited in the intro paragraph have dead links. I looked everywhere for that quote about him by the WSJ and the only places I can find it are his own blogs, interviews, and wiki pages he's edited himself. It also says on this very page that he has degrees in 3 non-linguistic areas of study.

Should the intro paragraph at least be edited to reflect any existing examples of his qualifications in etymology? LaymansLinguist (talk) 08:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The only references to his involvement with The Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America at all are, again, only on his blog and other sites he edits himself. I looked at the detailed bibliography for each volume and he is not mentioned at all. It is my professional opinion that most if not all of the reasons he even has a Wikipedia page at all are entirely fabricated or at the very least heavily exaggerated in his favor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaymansLinguist (talk • contribs) 08:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

After removing all info I could independently confirm was either impossible to confirm or just completely made-up, nearly everything else lacks a citation at all. I'm not sure at this point why he would even have this page, other than the fact that it's clear he has added this stuff himself. LaymansLinguist (talk) 08:55, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know if there's any way I can help contribute to or better edit this page; I do more linguistic research than editing but I tried to use the expertise I do have to make this page as accurate as I could; I left anything I was unsure of but even those I'm quite skeptical of, if only because I found SO many flat-out fabrications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaymansLinguist (talk • contribs) 09:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LaymansLinguist: Fabrications of what exactly? I don't follow. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 18:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to referring to himself as a linguist despite no formal training or certification, let alone a degree in even a related field, the citations themselves are dead links, unrelated pages, bibliographies that do not cite him, and interviews that do not include the quote given. I've also included the two egregious fabrications I mentioned above.

"I looked everywhere for that quote about him by the WSJ and the only places I can find it are his own blogs, interviews, and wiki pages he's edited himself."

"The only references to his involvement with The Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America at all are, again, only on his blog and other sites he edits himself. I looked at the detailed bibliography for each volume and he is not mentioned at all. It is my professional opinion that most if not all of the reasons he even has a Wikipedia page at all are entirely fabricated or at the very least heavily exaggerated in his favor." LaymansLinguist (talk) 08:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i would also look at all the comments above mine as well, including:

“under Publications for "Co-author, The Origin of New York City's Nickname "The Big Apple" (forthcoming 2006)". It is now less than a week until 2011 and the book does not seem to have appeared, nor can I find it listed on his website” LaymansLinguist (talk) 08:37, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this book clearly exists and is reviewed here. Moreover, next to ISBN 978-3-631-61386-3, there's also ISBN 978-3-631-35435-3. So what's the problem? The publication of the book was simply delayed. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 06:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]