Talk:Ballpoint pen artwork/Archive 1

Archive 1

Author, Re: June 3rd revision

I've been actively tracking ballpoint pen artwork and artists for over twenty years, before anyone cared. It became harder to "gauge" what's relevant, due to the ease of viral internet over-emphasis by otherwise uneducated reporters, but in some ways it's now easier. Now that this Wikipedia article is thoroughly embedded, monitored and sourced, the public/media now have a valid, formal reference point and "gauge" (which was my point in creating this article). Here are a few specifics about my June 3rd revision:

• Subtracted mention of Jerry Stith, which until now noted his claims of "establishing ballpoint art as a movement." I never originally inserted his name anyway (only that his/such claims existed; someone else inserted his actual name) but, with all due respect to Mr. Stith, filling a website with pages of ballpoint drawings of anyone who submits it does-not-a-movement-make; at least not enough to lay claim to it (especially with not much in the way of substantial extrapolation). No third-party reportage or other records exist giving Mr. Stith's claims any credence, until his name appeared here, which he subsequently used for his own benefit. His website merely exists, but other websites exist claiming the same. At the very least, his website remains as a general reference here for claims of a "movement", and I feel that's adequate.
• I've made major additions to the "Notable ballpoint artists" section but that section will remain the most work-in-progress segment of this article, as careers are set-or-not and as to how much any listed artists contribute genuinely to the medium. This article can NOT become a list-of-everyone-who-ever-got-their-artwork-on-the-internet. For the sake of this article, I'm listing artists who remain active and/or with valid source material to back it up, or topics of special interest to the medium. Many of the additions I made in this revision were done in good faith for careers which show promise, but their inclusion here is transient depending on further activity. Case-in-point:
• J.F. Casas made a splash on the internet a number of years ago now, but current searches merely turn up the remnants of that same wave of promotion. Therefore, with all do respect to Mr. Casas and his work, prominent mention of his work is on-hold here. His own Wikipedia page (English) provides insufficient sources, and even his native Spanish Wikipedia page provides NO sources. He may in fact have a career-in-progress, but no one seems to be reporting it, meaning: no undue attention here until the proof is in the pudding. Submissions of such proof are welcome!
• James Mylne & Lennie Mace have been most helpful providing not only source material but art data as well, therefore their inclusion here reflects that (Mace and Il Lee have also been attracting attention with their ballpoint artwork for nearly thirty years, with sources of which I have first-hand knowledge and real-time exposure prior to the internet).

Submissions, suggestions, comments are always welcome, but better-appreciated here on the talk-page first! Thanks, Penwatchdog (talk) 12:52, 4 June 2013 (UTC)