Talk:Attara Kacheri
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January 2021 Did You Know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:24, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
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Front facade of the Attara Kacheri, Bangalore
... that in the early 1950s, Kengal Hanumanthaiah, Chief Minister of Mysore, wanted to demolish the Attara Kacheri (pictured), seeing it as a vestige of colonialism?Source: "He even sought to demolish the Karnataka High Court (also known as “Attara Kacheri”) for representing the colonial vestige in India, but he was denied the requisite permission." (Bar and Bench)ALT1:... that lacking the requisite permission to demolish the colonial-style Attara Kacheri (pictured), Kengal Hanumanthaiah, Chief Minister of Mysore, instead ordered the construction of the Dravidian-style Vidhana Soudha directly opposite it at a slight elevation?Source: "Hanumanthaiah wanted to raise a monumental structure in the Dravidian style to counter the colonial remnants in Mysore. He even sought to demolish the Karnataka High Court (also known as “Attara Kacheri”) for representing the colonial vestige in India, but he was denied the requisite permission" (Bar and Bench); "Apparently , nationalist sentiments were so intense that Hanumanthaiah intentionally built the Vidhana Soudha right opposite the Attara Kacheri at a slight elevation."(The Economic Times)
- Comment: I don't require a QPQ (only my third DYK)
, but I plan to review some DYKs anyway. I'll review a few in a few hoursCurrently reviewing The Doctor and Student.
- Comment: I don't require a QPQ (only my third DYK)
5x expanded by Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk). Self-nominated at 05:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC).
- Isn't this just new, on 3rd january? Anyway, new & long enough, seems neutral & well-written & referenced. Both hooks check out for sources but I make ALT1 247 characters long; the limit is 200. Johnbod (talk) 17:25, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
ALT2 ":... that unable to demolish the colonial-style Attara Kacheri (pictured), Kengal Hanumanthaiah, Chief Minister of Mysore, instead built the Dravidian-style Vidhana Soudha opposite it at a slight elevation?- comes out at 200 exactly, & could be even shorter. I suppose a new reviewer is needed if this is gone with. Johnbod (talk) 17:34, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Johnbod, thanks for ALT2, I nominated the article late at night and wasn't able to think of how to shorten the hooks. Btw, I nominated it as an expansion because the article already existed as a redirect to the Karnataka High Court article for several years till I decided to decouple the articles. The article history doesn't show that because I wrote the content in draftspace, and someone else kindly nominated it at WP:RM/TR to be moved to the old redirect page, which TheAafi did. Again, thanks! Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 06:10, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Also Johnbod, the hook you proposed is actually 190 characters long, as I believe the (pictured) part is not counted in the character count. Thus, I suggest a final alt, fixing up the grammar a bit:
- ALT3: ... that unable to demolish the colonial-style Attara Kacheri (pictured), K. Hanumanthaiah, Chief Minister of Mysore, instead ordered the Dravidian-style Vidhana Soudha be built opposite it at a slight elevation?
This does work out to 201 characters, but I don't think one character will be an issue? Please comment.196 characters now. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 16:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)- It's ok by me, but a new reviewer will be needed (and they might object). Btw, the extent to which the new building actually is "Dravidian-style" is questionable, but it is certainly called that. Johnbod (talk) 17:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Johnbod, I made a final small tweak - I changed Kengal Hanumanthiah to K. Hanumanthiah, which is also a common name the CM was (and continues to be) known by, and is, in fact, the name his article uses. The hook is only 196 characters long now. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 01:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- For further reviewers: ALT3 is the one I believe is better, because it more accurately states that the Chief Minister ordered a structure to be built, while ALT2 just states that 'he built it'. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 04:40, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's ok by me, but a new reviewer will be needed (and they might object). Btw, the extent to which the new building actually is "Dravidian-style" is questionable, but it is certainly called that. Johnbod (talk) 17:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
after i suggested a hook. Johnbod (talk) 17:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
for ALT3 and article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used throughout. Hook length within limit and facts are cited and stands verified from the peer-reviewed article[1] mentioned in the article. Image is of best quality and has been featured as 'image of the day' in multiple Wikipedia and has no licensing issues. Good to go — Amkgp 💬 06:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ Nair, Janaki (November 2002). "Past Perfect: Architecture and Public Life in Bangalore". The Journal of Asian Studies. 61 (4): 1205–1236. doi:10.2307/3096440.