Talk:Ashcan comic/GA1

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Reviewer: Cognissonance (talk · contribs) 16:47, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I'll take this one, won't be long. Cognissonance (talk) 16:47, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Lead

• The complete definition should be in the first sentence, with the A un-capitalised. Suggestion: "An ashcan copy is a type of American comic book publication created solely to establish trademarks on potential titles and not intended for sale, which was done in the 1930s and 1940s when the comic book industry was in its infancy."
• "The term was revived in the 1980s by a comic creator" Who?
• "The term has been adopted by the film and television industries for low-grade material created to preserve a claim to licensed property rights." To avoid starting with "The term" twice in one paragraph, I suggest: "In the film and television industries, the term has been adopted by for low-grade material created to preserve a claim to licensed property rights."

Original use

• "In the fast-paced competition" "fast-paced" reads like WP:POV.
• "exciting-sounding titles" Improve prose: "titles intended to sound thrilling"
• "the ashcan edition. Ashcan comics were the same size as regular comics and usually had a black and white cover" Copy edit: "the ashcan edition, which was the same size as regular comics and usually had a black and white cover."
• "cover art was recycled from previous publications and a new title was pasted to it" Copy edit: "cover art was recycled from previous publications with a new title pasted to it."
• "pencils work" Is it just me or should that be "pencil work"?
• "Clerks at the office accepted the hastily produced material" Sounds too specific. Maybe tweak to "Clerks at the office would accept the hastily produced material"
• I'm not so sure about the reliability of Recalled Comics. It's not on WP:CMC/REF either. Could you replace it?
• "After accepted by the Trademark Office" Grammar: "After being accepted by the Trademark Office"
• "The term was applied to these hastily-made editions" "hastily produced" has already been used, don't need a second one.

Later use

• Link "digest-sized" to Digest size
• Ref. 11 (Bleeding Cool) does not substantiate the information that "some established publishers" release ashcans for promotion or any of the Dark Horse details. Add source(s).

Film and television

• Ref. 15 (io9) is also a dubious source that should be replaced.

Comments

I'll put this on hold and wait for the nominator to respond. Cognissonance (talk) 18:07, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I've addressed all the easy ones. I've replaced three of the four uses of Recalled Comics. The remaining one will require more effort, but I think it's important information. Other sources I've found so far are more specific (these ashcans are from the 30s and 40s),.

I may have to rework the "some established publishers" piece to be about specific recent examples instead of a generic presentation, but I'm still scanning for sources.

Hopefully I can knock these out in a day or two. Thanks for the quick review! Argento Surfer (talk) 19:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate it, ping me when you're ready. Cognissonance (talk) 19:30, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Cognissonance: I found a replacement source that was more detailed. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:35, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Is there a source that confirms that retailers sell these at a premium? Ref. 11 omits this. Cognissonance (talk) 20:49, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I've removed that sentence. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:53, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Re-read it, fixed some minor things. Good work, passed! Cognissonance (talk) 21:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)