Talk:Ascaric (name)
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Etymology is disambig
[edit]The etymology was in the page before I revised it; however, it was wrong. You can find the references and a condensed write-up under Ascaric. This raises the question of whether etymologies belong on disambig pages. I'm not specializing in disambigs so I am not going to decide. I'm pretty sure that wrong etymologies do not belong on any page, so I fixed this one. It can be deleted, but where the etymology in Ascaric was designed for that Ascaric this one covers all the Ascarics. To make them the same you would need to add all the spellings in different languages given here to the other. Some editors might feel a mission to make this disambig follow some strait rules. For myself I'm happy with this. There might be more Ascaric articles that could be mentioned. Also there are some French derived names that are a little farther from Ascaric but once you know the connection you can see it in the name.
As for what was wrong, well, the linguistics was a bit shaky. Not everyone is a linguist, whether a WP editor or his source. Ascaric cannot be from OHG as it precedes the existence of OHG by at least a few centuries. The OHG has a reflex form but it is not Ascaric, and besides, if it were OHG then it could not be all these other things that don't come from OHG. Also some words listed as "cognate" are not that but are reflexes, or descendants. A cognate is a parallel descendant. If it is from OHG then they can't be cognates, and if cognates, not from OHG. But we already know the first one, Ascaric, was Protogermanic, because that is what was being spoken by the early Franks of the times.
The use of ric and the religious significance of the spear was not too clear. It is the spear of Wodin, the symbol of his power, which is battle madness. He is the mad god raging around the battlefield collecting the slain and hauling them off to Valhalla.
I know what I wrote is a little longer. Sometimes accuracy takes a little space. The real question is, does it belong on a disambig page. Your call if you are doing disambigs.Dave (talk) 03:02, 27 December 2011 (UTC)