Talk:Arthuret

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Etymology section

The first part of this section (the English Place Name Society reference) seems fine, but the second part is rather confused and unreliable. I propose to remove it, unless there are good argued objections, on the following grounds: a) Dr. Goodrich wrote popular works about Arthur and his circle, and seems to have been not well regarded by scholars as a reliable source (see the WP article on her). This doesn't make her wrong, but it should be made explicit that her views are speculative and contentious; b) the paragraph is not cited as it should be; c) most of the section is not about the etymology of the place. (The following section on Arthurian Connections likewise needs looking at as regards citations). Laplacemat (talk) 17:55, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I have moved the following from the article

It was one of only eight places marked on the first printed map of Scotland made in 1570, produced by Abraham Ortelius. The other sites marked are Carlisle, Kirklinton, Jedburgh, Wark^{[disambiguation needed]}, Coldstream, Norham and Berwick (Logan Mack 1926)

because if you think about it it can't possibly be true and the "Ortelius map as accessed from the". National Library of Scotland. Retrieved 18 March 2013. shows it not to be. I would assume that what is meant is that only 8 places in England are shown, but that isn't the case either.Rjccumbria (talk) 21:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This link was added to the article after discussion on the WP Reliable Sources Noticeboard. See: WP:RSN exercise. No information from the CCHT link has been put into the body of the article in the form of citations because it has not yet been verified for 100% accuracy by the Victoria County History project for Cumbria. (This will take some years to do). Laplacemat (talk) 17:41, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Arthuret

Arthuret weisst interessante Parallelen zur Artussaga auf. Dort war nämlich einst eine Schlacht, die Schlacht von Arfderyyd.

Hauptpersonen; Ein König namens Rhyderich Hael mit einem besonderen Schwert, auch Dyrnwyn genannt, es sei ein Flammenschwert, welches in der christlichen Mythologie eine grosse Rolle spielt als Schwert der Erzengel, zB des Erzengels Michaels.

Ein verrückter Barde Namens Myrddin Wyllt, der mit Merlin assoziert wird.

Ein Kirchenmann, Bishoff glaube ich, namens Kentigern von Glasgow, auch als Mungo bekannt. Es gibt eine walisische Sage mit einem Mann namens Vortigern und Merlin, welche vielleicht auch von dieser Geschichte abstrahiert wurde.

Könnte es also sein, dass König Arthur der Arthussaga nicht ein Mann, sondern ein Ort war? Oder der König, der in der Schlacht bei Arthuret für die Christen den Sieg errang, Rhyderrich Hael.

Excalibur wäre dann also das Schwert Dyrnwyn.

Die ganze Sage könnte für den Sieg des Christentums stehen, so wie übrigens auch viele andere Drachentötergeschichten. Michael hatte ja nicht nur ein Flammenschwert, er war auch ein Drachentöter und ist überall auf der Welt zu finden. Der Sieger der neuen Religion über die alten Religionen, der Einzug des Christentums, wie wir es kennen... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.202.240.52 (talk) 23:30, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]