Talk:Armenians in Afghanistan
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[edit]Where are the sources for this article? I can't find any online. --Shakarian141 (talk) 20:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
- Most of the Armenian in Afghanistan fled and now live in neighbooring countries of Pakistan and Iran who have thriving Armenian communities. I dont think any are left in Afghanistan itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.46.97 (talk) 05:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Most of the material that was previously here appears to have been taken from some random French webpage with no indication whatsoever of editorial oversight or other reason for trusting it [1]. I've deleted it all and replaced it with sourced material. The unsourced material can be found below. Please don't restore it unless you can find verification in proper reliable sources. Thanks, cab (talk) 10:11, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Here is another source that can be used in the article; unfortunately, I do not have access to it. The volume is probably not widely available outside of major research university libraries.
- Jonathan L. Lee, "The Armenians of Kabul and Afghanistan" in Cairo to Kabul: Afghan and Islamic Studies Presented to Ralph Pinder-Wilson, edited by Warwick Ball and Leonard Harrow (London: Melisende, 2002). Jackal 05:34, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- Here is another source that can be used in the article; unfortunately, I do not have access to it. The volume is probably not widely available outside of major research university libraries.
- Most of the material that was previously here appears to have been taken from some random French webpage with no indication whatsoever of editorial oversight or other reason for trusting it [1]. I've deleted it all and replaced it with sourced material. The unsourced material can be found below. Please don't restore it unless you can find verification in proper reliable sources. Thanks, cab (talk) 10:11, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm the author of the above work 'The Armenians of Kabul and Afghanistan'.As far as I know the book which contains my article is available through academic libraries. Interested readers should know I am still researching the Armenian community of Afghanistan and, subsequent to their expulsion in 1896, their lives in Peshawar. I hope to produce a substantial work on the subject in the next 3-2 years which includes a great deal more material, including manuscript material, correspondence etc. Readers may also be interested in the following work: Shahzad Z. Najmuddin "Armenian: A Resume, with notes on Seth's Armenians in India" (, especially chap VII. The author (now dead) is descended from one of the leading Armenians of Kabul
https://www.amazon.com/Armenia-Resume-Shahzad-Z-Najmuddin/dp/1412201241!
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[edit]To help on going research into this largely undocumented community can those posting unsourced comments please state their sources, or if they are from personal knowledge from e.g. living in Afghanistan with Armenians neighbours. Thanks J.L.Lee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwilee (talk • contribs) 04:13, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- number around 35,000. They live mainly in Fayzabad, Mazari Sharif, Maymana, Herat. This community is relatively new, and has no connection to the historic Armenian community in Afghanistan from the Arshagounian era, and more particularly from 14th to 19th centuries. Many have since fled to neighbooring Pakistan and have established successful businesses in the Pakistani port city of Karachi, Islamabad and Lahore.
- The Armenian presence in Afghanistan dates back to the Arshagouni dynasty. As the Persians deported Armenians to Persia, some of the them continued further east to settle in what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan.
- The second wave of Armenian immigration came in the 14th century when Armenians settled in Kandahar and Kabul and some more to the north of the country and eastward towards Peshawer and Multan in Pakistan.
- The third wave of Armenian immigration occurred in 1760. The Rezla tribe living in Afghanistan were of Armenian origin. They numbered as many as 10,000 families. Afghan Mir Mahmoud after reaching Isfahan took almost 500 Armenians from New Julfa and settled them in Kabul where they flourished in tranquility.
- In 1737, the Armenians in Kabul constructed the first Armenian church, on Blayi Sar street, near the Djalalabad fortress and a cemetery 1.5 kilometres away. Armenians occupied important positions in the government and the Afghan army.
- In 1764, the church in Echmiadzin sent bishop Grigor de Sanahine to organise the community and establish language schools. He established two new Armenian Apostolic churches for the community.
- By the beginning of the 19th century, the number of Armenians in Kabul had dwindled to just 30-40 families. In 1831, ruler Amir Khan imprisoned many influential Armenians who were only released after they came under the jurisdiction of Catholic missionary Josef Volm in Peshawar.
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