Talk:Argon compounds

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A fact from Argon compounds appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 October 2016 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that argon oxide, an argon compound, interferes with the detection of iron-56 in inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2016/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Argon compounds.

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Review papers

Reviews for these compounds are few and far between but there are some mentions. --Project Osprey (talk) 12:17, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gerber, R.B. (2004). "FORMATION OF NOVEL RARE-GAS MOLECULES IN LOW-TEMPERATURE MATRICES". Annual Review of Physical Chemistry. 55 (1): 55–78. doi:10.1146/annurev.physchem.55.091602.094420. ISSN 0066-426X.
McDowell, Sean (2006). "Studies of Neutral Rare-Gas Compounds and their Non-Covalent Interactions with Other Molecules". Current Organic Chemistry. 10 (7): 791–803. doi:10.2174/138527206776818964. ISSN 1385-2728.

Compounds?

Are the materials discussed in this article compounds? People who work in this area refer to these as van der Waals complexes, at least to my recollection. --Smokefoot (talk) 13:05, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Argon fluorohydride (HArF) seems to be doi:10.1038/35022551, ditto for argonium (ArH⁺). That said, a lot of the compounds discussed do seems to be electrostatic adducts of ArH⁺. --Project Osprey (talk) 13:37, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a better name than compounds? "Chemicals" is even less correct. But perhaps you could use the term "chemistry".Most of the excimers have something like a conventional covalent bond, however these are all very short lived. Quite a few of the ions with hydrogen have what is like a hydrogen bond. They are certainly not like conventional solid compounds, but are in a broader definition of compound, a combination of argon with something else. They could be called molecules or molecular ions. Our experience of chemistry is influenced strongly by the standard conditions that we normally experience, 25° 1 atm. However these molecular substances exist at low temperatures, low pressures, or conditions far from equilibrium, eg driven by a laser. There would also be argon containing solids substances at high pressure. But they are not included here yet. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:04, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]