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The following is a note or chat. Removed from article page. Bobanahalf (talk) 13:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC) NO PUEDEN HACER UN ARTICULO SOBRE LA NEUTRALIDAD ARGENTINA DURANTE LA SEGUNDA GUERRA MUNDIAL BASADO EN UN UNICO AUTOR Y EN UNA UNICA OBRA.ESTE ARTICULO ES MAS BIEN UN RESUMEN DEL LIBRO "PERON: FORMACION, ASCENSO Y CAIDA". EN FIN, LA PROXIMA SEMANA ME OCUPARE DE REESCRIBIRLO Y APOTAR NUEVA BIBLIOGRAFIA (POR QUE NO ESCUDE? XD)[reply]

It is correct that we should several sources, but don't forget that this article was created just a week ago. Have in mind as well that a single work does not necesarily mean a single perspective, if the book takes the work of mentioning the different perspectives about something. Check for example the part about the alternative perspectives on why Castillo stayed neutral: I did not check one in a book, check another in another book and combine, this book already does that work. Same as detailing exactly who maintained which ideas.
Besides, the advantage of Galasso over other historians I have seen, is that he does not work upon the great man theory. This article is not about the relations between Hull, Castillo, Peron or Ramirez as mere men, but about the relations of political, social or economic factions that use them as spokemen. For instance, when the communist party priviledged the Russian interests over the local labour conflicts, they lost the support of the unions, who turned to Perón; this also means that if the communist party did not neglect their relations with the unions, the popular support for the government would have been lower Cambalachero (talk) 15:59, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Mostly in No.164 RAF Squadron "Argentine British"?

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False. It seems that only 4 British-Argentine pilots flew with that fighter and fighter-bomber unit in 1942-45: Bridger (killed in flying accident in 1942), Sheward (posted to other squadron in 1943), Greene and Brownrigg (posted to other squadron in June 1944). The title "Argentine British" didn't refer to the nationality of the pilots, but to the funds-raising campaign on behalf of the RAF carried out in Argentina by the British community. It was a "donation squadron", like squadrons 247 "China British" (get it?), 263 "Fellowship of the Bellows-Argentina", 193 "Fellowship of the Bellows-Brazil" and 154 "Motor Industries". Nationalities of the pilots killed in action or in flying accident with 164 Squadron in 1942-1945: 9 British (born in Great Britain, not British-Argentines with British nationality), 4 Australians (Schaefer, Merrett, Roberts, and Mc Culloch), 1 Argentine (Bridger, as mentioned), 1 Canadian (Dennison), and 1 New Zealander (Trafford). Prisoners of war after being shot down over enemy territory: 1 Canadian (Young), 1 British (Russell), and 1 New Zealander (Waddy). I've included John M. Bryan among the British fatalities. Although he was the Wing Commander- a Wing is made up of some squadrons-, he led 164 Squadron in battle. Despite the contemporary popular delusion to the contrary, No. 164 RAF Squadron was not made up of Argentine volunteers. In the RAF there were many many many Argentine volunteers, that's out of question, but the hype of the "Argentine Squadron" in WW2 is based on a misunderstanding of the squadron's title: "Argentine British". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.39.48.137 (talk) 12:20, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Other POW in April 1945: Lawton, nationality unknown, but non-Argentine.
The late William M. Baggs, Canadian, was a fighter-bomber pilot in 164 Sqn in 1944-1945 ("http://www.thememoryproject.com/stories/654:bill-mitchell-baggs/"): And the squadron was composed of just about every allied nationality. The nucleus would be fellows from the UK. We had Belgian, Frenchmen, Poles, South Africans, Rhodesians, myself a Canadian, an American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.99.89.51 (talk) 10:49, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
First fatality in 164 Sqn: Bruce A. Schaefer, Australian, flying accident, Scotland, 18 August 1942 (the New Zealander Colin L. Wood was killed in action over Malta on 30 July 1942, but at that time this pilot of 164 Sqn had been detached to 1435 Sqn). Last fatality: Douglas W. McCulloch, Australian, friendly fire, 10 April 1945, Germany.

Heavy additions to the article

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I have undertaken a major edit of this article, as it suffered from many problems. Namely, there was an over-reliance on a single source (Galasso), little input from other historians on the war, and a near-total lack of information on the political and economic situation during the years previous to 1941. I have respected most of the original article as it was, not removing sources, but rather adding new sections, mainly focused on the political and economic situation previous to the war (Situation before the Great Depression, 1930 Military Coup, Uriburu and Justo governments), and the Ortiz and Castillo administrations during the early phase of the war. The only section that suffered a major rewrite was the lede, as I found it rather innacurate and an oversimplification of the state of affairs (re:situation previous to the war). On the rest, I simply made some minor changes and additions. I have also added more photographs to illustrate the article.

I welcome any suggestions or improvements to the article, as well as help with proper formatting on the sources, since I haven't extensively editted on Wikipedia in over 13 years (I had to create a new account because I couldn't even remember my password) and I was quite rusty. Cheers. Patoruzú 1990 (talk) 03:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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