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A fact from Aran Bell appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 October 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Aran Bell, who was profiled at age 11 in the dance documentary First Position, became a principal dancer for the American Ballet Theatre at age 21?

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 11:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that ballet dancer Aran Bell portrayed Romeo in Romeo and Juliet when he was only 19?~~ Source: "And on Wednesday afternoon, Aran Bell, at just 19, makes an important debut: as Romeo in Kenneth MacMillan’s production of “Romeo and Juliet.”" ([1])
- ALT1:~~... that Aran Bell became a principal dancer with the American Ballet Theatre when he was only 21?~~ Source: "Mr. Bell, at 21, is young to be promoted to principal dancer — but he is used to doing things early." ([2])

Reviewed: Raissa Calza
Comment: Personally prefer ALT0

Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 18:25, 15 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]

This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and either hook could be used, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These hooks mirror the one you wrote for Calvin Royal III. Is there anything else to say about these dancers other than their youth? Yoninah (talk) 23:47, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah He is 21. The only other option I can come out with - ALT2:~~... that as a child, ballet dancer Aran Bell was featured in the documentary First Position?~~ Corachow (talk) 23:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Corachow: I see, it's just over 1500 characters. Is there any more detail you can add? By the way, the cites for the birth/death dates do not belong in the lead. Yoninah (talk) 00:01, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah I expanded a little bit, it now has around 1700 characters. Corachow (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I found a source for his birth date. What do you think about this rewording of your ALT0 hook:
ALT0a: ~~... that at age 19, Aran Bell made his debut as Romeo in Romeo and Juliet as a member of the American Ballet Theatre's corps de ballet?~~ Yoninah (talk) 17:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Thanks for the new source! I like this new hook, though I suggest linking corps de ballet. Corachow (talk) 17:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I did that, but tried to avoid a sea of blue with the name of the dance company. I also wonder what you think of more of a combination hook:
ALT3: ... that Aran Bell, who was profiled at age 11 in the dance documentary First Position, became a principal dancer for the American Ballet Theatre at age 21? Yoninah (talk) 17:21, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: This one seems good too! However, according to the New York Times review, he was 11 when the documentary was filmed. Corachow (talk) 17:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it. Would you like another review? Yoninah (talk) 17:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Corachow (talk) 17:44, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Corachow: I prefer ALT3. And you? Yoninah (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Same. Thank you for the to hooks! Corachow (talk) 17:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: could you take a look at ALT3? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:39, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Approving ALT3, giving it an AGF tick because I can't access the New York Times source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the relevant text from the New York Times article:
Several children, including Aran Bell (11) and Michaela DePrince (14), could have been spun off into separate documentaries. Yoninah (talk) 16:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]