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How come Haunted Mansion and most movies with Rotten Tomatoes or Metascore in "40s" are mixed but this one is negative? Anant-morgan (talk) 02:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS applies. Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are not the sole determinators of critic reviews. We go by what reliable sources say, and it is generally sourced that this film received mostly negative reviews, though some positives are noted in the Reception section of the article, as well. Just because other films' metrics are considered one thing does not mean the same would apply to another. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please find reliable sources about whether the film succeeded or underperformed at the box office? The Media Expert (talk) 11:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We have sources discussing what a potential break even point would be. We don't need to include whether it succeeded or not. I urge you to find sources yourself rather than asking other editors to do so for you. Talk discussions are also not just for making any discussions asking others to do things for you. If you come back with reliable sources discussing its performance, than we could review them in line with MOS:ACCLAIMED. Without sources, there is not much we can work with here. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Look at this source, it states that the theatrical revenue was higher on releases including this movie, but lower than anticipated.[1] The Media Expert (talk) 14:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Theatrical revenue was higher on more releases, including Aquaman And The Lost Kingdom but lower than anticipated even as analysts had been lowering their studio forecasts." That still doesn't state it underperformed or was a success either way. We'll need to wait for more analytical sources on the box office, though I have included the information for what it explicitly states. Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've been moving Martin Short's role as Kingfish in the additional cast and repeatedly did it several times, especially now, because Kingfish is simply just a minor character. In my opinion, Martin Short as Kingfish should rather be on the additional cast, because several cast members like Jani Zhao as Stingray and Pilou Asbæk as Kordax made more appearances than Kingfish and yet, they both are listed in the additional cast. Why would Martin Short as Kingfish be on the main cast, despite his character only making an appearance when Arthur and Orm went to his sunken citadel to locate Black Manta? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymy365248 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I have already explained in my reverts, this film's cast order is based on the main on-end credits in the film. We should not alter the billing order based on our own assumptions regarding the amount of screen time a character receives. Please see MOS:FILMCAST, which allows such orders to be presented in this manner. I would also argue that since there is more descriptive information for Kingfish than the other non-billed actors, there is no harm in retaining this order based on the main titles credits. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is there more descriptive information for Kingfish? Because the way I see it, he only made one appearance, while Kordax and Stingray made more appearances than him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymy365248 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's based on the sources that were available and added to the article. By all means, if you can find more sources with relevant information on the other characters, you are free to add them yourself. Although, none of that means the billing order should be altered to fit one's preference. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, it should not be changed because MOS:FILMCAST allows us to go off of the main on-end credits, as well. The only difference between the poster billing and the on-end credits is the inclusion of Short, so I am not convinced that it ought to be changed just to move this one actor. Trailblazer101 (talk) 14:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or, if you mean to change the MOS itself, that would be considered disruptive as that is a policy and not something just anyone can change without garnering a consensus, which I believe would be considered disruptive. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, we still don't know the net profit or loss for the film. @Trailblazer101, are there any reliable sources that state how much money the studio made or lost based on the box-office performance? The Media Expert (talk) 14:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. I have not seen any. If you do find any, by all means add them. It may take years before any profit is calculated, so nothing is always guaranteed to be available right away. Trailblazer101 (talk) 14:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
