Talk:Antenarrative

Suggestions for Improvement

This article is a heap of postmodern gobbledeguck. Can someone who understands antenarrative please rewrite it to give clear definitions and reduce jargon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulralph (talk • contribs) 20:32, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

I did. It was deleted for being a 'heap' before, and I fixed it. What part of this critical linguistic anthropological theory do you do you not understand? Or do you mean that the technical terms are "gobbledeguck"? 24.20.171.14 (talk) 09:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

I believe this will help.CredenceHarbor (talk) 13:12, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Notability

We've gone over the notability of this fairly recently and I've presented compelling evidence that Antenarrative is, in fact, notable. Further the quotes now sample very small portions of the overall works they cite. Before this page was deleted there was a LOT of work i'd put into citing, and the "copy write" holder was more than happy to have this information here. If you have an objection to this work then let me know and I'll do my best to solve any problems you may have with the antenarrative page.

Saylors (talk) 08:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

You say that your previously put a lot of work into citing. As you are a new editor I assume that means you have previously edited under a different name. Would you please tell us what ID you used? ----Snowded ^TALK 09:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Sure: I was antenarrative (where I added antenarrative) and rsaylors (where I did a major revision of appreciative inquiry); In both cases I couldn't figure out my passwords and telling wikipedia to send them to me didn't work*. So I re-registered with the same email that I Imagine I'd used before and it let me (I would have thought it'd give me a registration error?); so here I is :-) Saylors (talk) 09:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC) *I first created rsaylors, then I couldn't figure out my password, so I created antenarrative, then once more I couldn't figure out my password so I created another account; at no point did I have access to multiple counts at once... I'm guessing I'll forget this password too some day.

I'm the admin who deleted this article on copyright grounds most recently, and I just now tagged it for copyright concerns again. While the quotes may be small parts of the overall works they cite, they are nonetheless fairly lengthy in the context of this article and in an absolute sense. Our guideline concerning non-free content says that "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea." There seems to be little to no reason that three entire paragraphs need to be quoted in this article as opposed to simply using them as sources and rewriting it into your own language.

Now if the copyright holders are indeed willing to have their information posted here as anything except for a brief quote, then they would need to release it under a free license, following the instructions laid out at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:08, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback and direction. I've amended the section on spiral antenarrative so that you can let me know if the quote was brief enough. The standards in for-profit books/journals and non-profit journals allow for much larger quotes, without copy-write, than it seems are acceptable by wikipedia standards. Saylors (talk) 22:22, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

You're absolutely correct--Wikipedia's standards are explicitly and purposefully stricter than those required elsewhere. It's a sometimes annoying side-effect of trying to make the encyclopedia as free (in all senses) as possible. I think your rewrite of the spiral section looks great, and the quote now does seem to be illustrating a point. Thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 23:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I hope that I have removed the copy-pasta to the point that this wikipedia will be free both as in beer and as in speech.Saylors (talk) 02:11, 3 November 2012 (UTC)