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The photograph of the statue Menkaure/Menkaura is given a wrong description. It's a statue of Hathor-Menkaura-Bat, not Hathor-Menkaura-Anput. References: National Geographic Magazine (March 1987): The Old Kingdom of Egypt, pp 79 & Egyptology: Sculptures and Arts. There are also no concrete descriptions of Anput in any reference nor is she properly defined as a truly existing being who bore goddess Kebechet.

More accurate descriptions of the references will be added later. 114.108.192.10 (talk) 11:49, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, you are wrong. On the statue are shown Hathor, Menkaura and Anput. There is other statue where Bat is depicted. It's very similar to this one, but they are not the same.--Mychele (talk) 15:06, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Illustration comment

The figure at right in the sculpture is a deified nome (county) of Upper Egypt. Source: Treasures of Egyptian Art, 1971 MFA, Boston & Met, NYC. Chapter 7, Cairo Museum Ent. No.40679. There were four of these triads found in Menkaure's Valley Temple with deified nomes, all with the convention of the totem animal (or whatever) carved above her head: a jackal or dog in this case. Pete Tillman (talk) 05:57, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edited, per http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/anput.html Anput is apparently both a deified nome AND a Jackal goddess. I guess this ancient religion stuff doesn't have to make sense ;-[

See this photo for a dramatically-lit photo of this triad, which looks like a promo shot for the movie. You will also note the preternatural positioning of the goddesses hidden arms -- those hands embracing the king! Pete Tillman (talk) 06:14, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and I always assumed the nome goddess in the statue was Anput. After I read your original comment, though, I wasn't so sure. Ancient Egypt Online is probably not a reliable source for this kind of theological detail. I found a more recent museum catalogue ([1], pages 273 and 274) whose wording suggests there may be a distinction between the patron deity of a nome and the personification of the nome. A paper on the Menkaure triads ("A Reconstruction of the Triads of Mycerinus" by Wendy Wood, JEA 1974) refers to the nome deities with terms like "nome-goddess of Cynopolis", "nome-goddess of Diospolis Parva", never as Bat or Anput. So you may have been right to begin with. A. Parrot (talk) 07:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pursuing this I've noticed the same usage for the deified Nome figures, but this is in 30 to 50 year old museum catalogs and such. Egyptology isn't a fast-changing discipline, but still... Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 21:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anput in contemporary culture

While looking for online copies of the Horus-Menkaure-Nome triad, I noticed a significant number of contemporary representation of Anput (& Anubis) in art, comix, manga & cosplay:

Anubis & Anput as manga figures
Woman wearing Anput headdress, made from a black (melanistic) coyote hide.
From that site, Anput is (apparently) worshiped as a part of "Therioshamanism".
Cover for a magazine "interview" with Anput as a superhero.
Anput, Goddess of the seventeenth Nome of Upper Egypt. Photorealist painting which is quite true to the original.
Gallahon meets Anput in the palace of Anubis, cartoon series.
The subject triad as a Hollywood teaser (view big on black). Note the preternatural positioning of the goddesss (hidden) arms, and those "disembodied hands".

. . . Etc. etc.

None of these really are RS's, but I may pursue this a bit, partic if I can find some PD artwork. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 21:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Depictions of Anput

From the article: "She was often depicted as a pregnant or nursing jackal, or as a jackal wielding knives. She also is depicted as a woman, with a headdress showing a jackal recumbent upon a feather, as seen in the statue of the divine triad of Hathor, Menkaure, and Anput. She occasionally is depicted as a woman with the head of a jackal, but this is very rare."

This is cited with the 2nd source of the article, but that source doesn't mention Anput ever depicted as "pregnant or nursing." It looks like this tidbit was added to the article in July 2018, but this information appears to be uncited. I tried to hunt down where the editor may have gotten this info, but googling "Anput pregnant" only returns this article, a Fandom page that plagiarizes it, and contemporary art, including Osiris x Set mpreg, which I must say I didn't need to see today. Do we have any other sources that confirm she was depicted as pregnant/nursing, or should we just can this supposed information? Please stop. (talk) 05:00, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I saw this when you put the tag in the article. I don't know of any sources that support this text, so I removed it. A. Parrot (talk) 00:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]