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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 08:01, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LEAD
This isn't a good criticism. The lede isn't there to reduce later sections by 90% or something. As an overview of the subject, the lede is good, and many editors seem to agree. --Ring Cinema (talk) 12:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I just went back and reread WP:LEAD. There is a "Relative emphasis" section that says quotations are an exception to the LEAD summarizing the main body. It says "Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article, although not everything in the lead must be repeated in the body of the text. Exceptions include specific facts such as quotations..." However, this does not resolve the issue in the section above that says "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article." In order for the lead to be a concise summary of the article, it needs to summarize each section, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:48, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I wish I could agree. The lede summarizes the article very well as it is, mentioning the most important participants and circumstances surrounding the making of the film that are then taken up in more detail later. Everything that appears below the lede doesn't need to be mentioned in the lede. That would be bad writing and encourage the promotion of trivial material to a main point, as we have already seen. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:34, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could do many things that would not improve the article. Brevity is a virtue. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where do we list our objections to the reviewers opinions? --Ring Cinema (talk) 05:52, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to respond to individual line items in a subsequent line or respond at the bottom to larger scale issues.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:20, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Main body

Actually, a paragraph consists of material that covers roughly the same topic. For that reason, some paragraphs are long and some are short. There is definitely no number of characters at which a well written paragraph that imparts information to the reader becomes too short. The only reason to merge paragraphs -- the only reason -- is that they cover the same topic. Checking the web for a couple minutes you will find this: "A paragraph is a group of sentences that fleshes out a single idea." "A paragraph is a group of sentences that develop a single point, idea or topic." "A group of closely related sentences that develop a central idea." That is what a paragraph is. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:44, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the five paragraphs you mention. They're all good. In fact, your bad advice has made the plot summary more difficult to understand. I will try to correct that. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Release
Images
I tried adding it but it came up as a red link.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. That template only exists on commons. You can't do it for the Keaton one which is just a fair use image at WP. Go to the commons page rather than the WP page for the Allen pic.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strong recommend withdrawing this for the time being. It needs a fair bit of work and this has become a stale nom. Fail it @TonyTheTiger: if you have to.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]