Talk:Aneel Mussarat

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maybe this should go in. http://www.southmanchesterreporter.co.uk/news/s/504974_open_house --87.127.117.246 (talk) 11:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

and this http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1337255_students_homeless_in_flats_safety_scare --87.127.117.246 (talk) 08:49, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Bad reputation / whitewashing

Over the past several days, three separate users (Ccn5555, 164.39.43.97 and Qwert001100) have tried to remove information about Mussarat's troubles as a landlord. I invite all three users to enter into a discussion as to why they feel this information (which is, at least in part, reliably cited to a local newspaper) should be removed. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this should be removed as it is about a company rather than about Mussarat as an individual. I should be under a company page rather than the individual. So it should be removed, please do look into this Qwert001100 (talk) 19:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Qwert001100: The Manchester Evening News story (here) names Mussarat personally as the landlord involved in demolishing tenants' homes while they were still living in them, so I don't know that we can separate the man and his company in this case. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay what about the other sources, is he named? Qwert001100 (talk) 21:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I can tell, but since he is the founder and prime owner of MCR Homes, the company's reputation reflects on him. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:28, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mussarat's notoriety and status is founded solely on his property business and portfolio and this is the MCR Property Group, by virtue of his position as CEO the company's activities and his are one and the same. Grovlin (talk) 10:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove Trustpilot reference Lucazs1 (talk) 11:00, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lucazs1: Can you explain why? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61: I guess because it's WP:OR (interpretation of a primary source). M.Bitton (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton: Is it, though? Yes, TrustPilot can be user-edited, but the point that the article makes is that people have said things. If they've said those things at TrustPilot, is that any different than them saying things to a journalist? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61: it's a not question of whether Truspilot is reliable (it's user generated), but rather whether what is said in it can be interpreted by us (instead of a secondary source). M.Bitton (talk) 19:57, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton: I don't think interpretation is required when reporting direct quotes of users of the site. I will grant that sites like these generally only report negative issues; people rarely take the trouble to report good outcomes. So I'll agree with removing the TrustPilot-sourced material. But the material that is reported in local newspapers should be retained. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:58, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61: I was referring to MCR's reputation is rated as bad with incredibly low ratings on Trustpilot, with reviews noting issues with leaks, dampness, security and even sewage leaking from drains and showers Is that the part that you wouldn't mind removing? I have no opinion on the rest (it's not part of the ER). M.Bitton (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton: That part, and the next sentence about the Facebook groups and YouTube videos, for the same reason (individual gripes do not necessarily mean much). I would retain In 2005 Manchester Council had to apply for an injunction to stop Classic Homes demolishing a Whalley Range house that had tenants living in it. as that is source to the Manchester Evening News. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiDan61 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done M.Bitton (talk) 13:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]