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A section of this article, The extended mind, was nominated for merging with Extended mind thesis on the 26th of June 2019. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was Merge.

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Deleted some paragraphs

I have deleted a paragraph about the ethical consequences of the Exended Mind, in which it is stated (without further argument) that the Extended Mind hypothesis forces us to reconsider our view on the differences between humans and animals or machines. As far as I know, and consider myself to be quite informed, Clark has not written about this sort of consequences himself, and I myself find it far from obvious that these would follow.

I have also deleted paragraphs in which is suggested that Clark thinks human cognition is similar to the activity of a Watt-Governer, for two reasons. First, it was suggested it were Clark's original ideas, whereas it is actually Tim van Gelder who has been writing mostly about this. Second, Clark has explicitly criticised several dynamicist theorists on the sort of conclusions they draw from simple systems like the Watt Governer, at least since 'Doing Without Representing' (co-authored with Josefa Toribio, SYNTHSESE 101, 1994: 401-431).

doubts about section 'general themes'

I seriously doubt whether this section adequately represents Clark's (current) view. Clark is not antirepresentationalist, and this page should not attribute radical views about cognition to him which he, admittedly, discusses in his works, but which are not originally his nor kept by him. Some research about this is needed.

I think the section 'general themes' 'd better be deleted, and replaced by sections on some more concrete ideas of Clark's. Suggestions: Clark's view on language, on scaffolding, on the notion of 'soft-assembly', on the nature of self, and on 'natural born cyborgs'.

--Davidcpearce (talk) 13:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC) Perhaps compare Andy Clark's perceptual direct realism ["...it remains correct to say that what we perceive is not some internal representation or hypothesis but (precisely) the world." - http://dericbownds.net/uploaded_images/Clark_preprint.pdf "Whatever Next? Predictive Brains, Situated Agents, and the Future of Cognitive Science" (2012) by Andy Clark] with the world-simulation model of perception articulated by, say, Antti Revonsuo. in "Inner Presence"(2006). I think In this sense at least, Andy Clark is an anti-representationalist even though he has criticised dynamical system theory.[reply]

Secondary sources

There are no secondary sources, suggesting this is WP:OR. Joja lozzo 16:34, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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