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Did you know... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion in New York City was designed by "the only architects in the city who had not begged for the job"?

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The Andrew Carnegie Mansion

... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion in New York City was designed by "the only architects in the city who had not begged for a job"? Source: Ewing, Heather P. (2014). Life of a Mansion: the Story of Cooper Hewitt, Smithsonian Design Museum. Cooper Hewitt. pp. 20, 23.
- ALT1: ... that several doorways in the Andrew Carnegie Mansion were shortened to draw attention away from Carnegie's short stature? Source: Conroy, Sarah Booth (October 3, 1976). "In Celebration of The Decorative Arts At the Cooper-Hewitt: Form and Function In Celebration of The Decorative Arts At the Cooper-Hewitt". The Washington Post. pp. E1, E2
- ALT2: ... that one newspaper wrote that Andrew Carnegie planted trees around his New York City mansion to block views of a tavern? Source: "Carnegie Regards Old Landmark Unsightly: Planting Trees as Screen Between His Home and an Old Tavern". Courier-Journal. April 16, 1901. p. 4.
- ALT3: ... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion almost became a United Nations clubhouse after Carnegie's wife died? Source: "Carnegie Mansion is Offered to U.N.; Palatial House on 5th Avenue at 91st Would Be Club and Office Building". The New York Times. October 18, 1946.
- ALT4: ... that in the 1990s, a designer sold her house in San Francisco to help pay for the renovation of the Andrew Carnegie Mansion in New York City? Source: Evans, Lynette (April 12, 1995). "Design museum to get $2 million from house sale". San Francisco Examiner. p. Z.3.
- ALT5: ... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion is connected to two townhouses that Andrew Carnegie was unable to acquire during his lifetime? Source: Gray, Christopher (March 1, 2012). "A Block With Andrew Carnegie's Stamp". The New York Times
- Reviewed: Ove Jørgensen

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Andrew Carnegie Mansion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@Epicgenius: 5x expanded and long enough. Comprehensive article and Earwig is 27% and only alerts to titles. QPQ is done and article is referenced, cited correctly and neutral. The image is free and renders well at this size. Under Site In a spot check of citations I am unable to confirm the 1902 date in this sentence "the mansion was near the north end of Fifth Avenue's Millionaires' Row when it was finished in 1902". I spot checked twenty other citations that matched.

AlT0 slight inconsistency - the source says begged for "the" job, but our hook says "a" job.
ALT1 states several doorways were shortened but we only list one shortened doorway in our article "The doorway to the office was only 6 feet (1.8 m) high"

I prefer those hooks if we can correct them and make them line up with our article. Bruxton (talk) 04:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: I see you corrected the 1902 issue Special:Diff/1202352925, and I will adjust the hooks above. Let me know if they are a good interpretation of the sources.

ALT0a: ... that the Andrew Carnegie Mansion in New York City was designed by "the only architects in the city who had not begged for the job"? Source: Ewing, Heather P. (2014). Life of a Mansion: the Story of Cooper Hewitt, Smithsonian Design Museum. Cooper Hewitt. pp. 20, 23.
ALT1a: ... that a doorway in the Andrew Carnegie Mansion was shortened to draw attention away from Carnegie's short stature? Bruxton (talk) 18:25, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bruxton: Thanks for the review. I have no problem with the content of these hooks, though they will need a third editor to look at them, so I will mark these hooks as needing review. Epicgenius (talk) 18:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: If you had corrected them first.... it is my fault for being too quick. Good article EG and I am excited to review this as a GAN. Bruxton (talk) 19:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0a and ALT1a both short enough and interesting (I prefer ALT0a), and both AGF cited.--Laun chba ller 13:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]