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Class name

This class was named "Caio Duilio Class", and not "Andrea Doria Class". The eponime ship was the RN Caio Duilio (see also the official site of Italian Navy at http://www.marina.difesa.it/storia/almanacco/Navi002.asp. --213.140.18.142 08:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most secondary sources call them the Andrea Doria class (or simply the Doria class), not the Caio Duilio class - this is probably because Andrea Doria was launched first. In any case, we follow what reliable secondary sources say. Parsecboy (talk) 11:57, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Italians are calling it the "Duilio class". It would seem to me the Regia Marina would have presidence over an English language secondary source. See Italian language wikipedia pages for Regia Marina and Caio Duilio Class battleships. On the other hand, the Japanese Zero fighter page is titled Mitsubishi A6M Zero, not the Type 0 Navy Carrier Fighter. Reliable secondary sources would be the rule, but sources in English or in Italian? Not sure about that.Gunbirddriver (talk) 03:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Long-established practice is to follow English-language sources for article titles. It's why, for instance, we have the article at Novak Djokovic, not Novak Đoković. Continental navies tend to name a class of ships after the first vessel completed, while Anglo-Americans tend to name it after the first ship launched. The US Colorado class is usually referred to as the Maryland class in Europe for this reason. Parsecboy (talk) 12:54, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, great. Thanks for the info. Gunbirddriver (talk) 04:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

English variant

At the time work started on expanding this article both Brit and AmEng were being used. No attempt was made to find out what it used in the beginning, but it is being rewritten in AmEng.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:01, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Curiously, the original version used a mixture - "modernized" but also "armour." Perhaps it's some other variant - Canadian or Australian English that I'm not particularly familiar with. Parsecboy (talk) 19:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could be, but I'm not really sure how to identify those variants.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:57, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heading Photo

The photo currently used at the top of the pages is NOT an Andrea Doria class, as the midships turret is mounted a deck higher than it should be. Therefore, it's a Conte di Cavour class, but I don't know which one. Nor do I have a replacement photo, so I'll leave replacement to someone who does 185.253.176.35 (talk) 14:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]