Talk:Andre Chad Parenzee

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography

Australia: Crime Mid‑importance

Andre Chad Parenzee is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article is supported by WikiProject Australian crime (assessed as Low-importance).

More information:
/
	This article has been marked as needing an infobox.
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Alternative views Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Alternative views, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of significant alternative views in every field, from the sciences to the humanities. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion.Alternative viewsWikipedia:WikiProject Alternative viewsTemplate:WikiProject Alternative viewsAlternative views
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

It is requested that an image or photograph of Andre Chad Parenzee be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.
The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

Appeal to Supreme Court documents

The complete judges ruling is available on-line in at least 2 places:

http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/judgments/Judgments2007/0427-SASC-143.htm http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/judgments/PDFs/2007-SASC-143-Parenzee.pdf

and

http://garlan.rethinkingaids.info/Cases/Parenzee/

user:Nocontroversy^talk 19:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we've had a link to the complete ruling since the article was created - the one to the original court document, and not the one to the document as transcribed by AIDS "rethinkers". - Nunh-huh 19:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree that the rethinkingaids website is best avoided as a source, except perhaps as a source for what AIDS denialists believe. Otherwise, it generally fails Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources. By the way, its webmaster, David Crowe, is occasionally active here (see User:DavidRCrowe). MastCell ^Talk 20:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Off-wiki enlistment of editors

Note that an AIDS denialist newsgroup posting is soliciting denialists to "enhance and expand" this article. MastCell ^Talk 19:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By excluding experts for the defense how did the judge let information into the trial - clarification of the article needed. Were there other experts for the defense that were allowed to testufy, etc.159.105.80.141 15:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC) I hadn't read the entire article - and not even the link about recruiting deniers ( neat word ie deniers ). The article doesn't need rebuttal but links to outside sources would be helpful. One question - were any other defense experts considered ( Duesberg might have been interested himself - there are plenty of experts who could have matched any of the prosecution experts in academic criteria etc? ( The article is very one-sided, as the link from the blog mentioned).159.105.80.141 17:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Duesberg acknowledges that HIV exists, and so he would have been an uncomfortable fit with the defense strategy of claiming it doesn't. The defense did not offer any potential expert witnesses other than the two who were ultimately found not to be experts. The article is simply reporting the judge's findings. If they're one-sided, you might want to consider the possibility that that's because one side is right. - Nunh-huh 21:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I have totally misread Duesberg, who discovered retroviruses, there is a virus but it doesn't have anything to do with AIDS. The virus called HIV is misnamed according to the person who discovered it ( and thought it might be the cause of cancer - it turns out, in his opinion, that it is the cause of nothing ( he thinks it might give you a short term cold-like illness I believe ). His research points to 1,() no AIDS link with HIV and 2.) AIDS appears to be a group of diseases that are common to certain situations ... stravation, poor canitation, drug use, etc. ( ie AIDS is a fake that brings in a lot of cash to a bunch of scrondrels who all do or should know better - Duesberg's opinion ).159.105.80.141 16:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the Perth Group claims HIV doesn't exist, Duesberg claims it does, but is harmless. Their views are incompatible, and can't really both be argued in a single trial. - Nunh-huh 19:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, at this point I'm going to say a) Duesberg didn't discover HIV, and b) please read the talk page guidelines - this and other AIDS-related talk pages are not forums for general discussion about Duesberg, AIDS, etc. They are intended for specific suggestions on improving this article. If you want to propound AIDS denialism, Holocaust denialism, or other wholesome interests this IP seems to be associated with, please utilize other venues besides Wikipedia talk pages. MastCell ^Talk 21:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Of course Duesberg didn't discover HIV. He dropped the whole retrovirus research due to the fact that retroviruses are harmless, a benign curiosity but not disease causing agents. Duesberg et al would have been proper expert witnesses - I can't figure out what the two witnesses they tried to use were going to testify on - cloves of garlic?159.105.80.141 15:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on Andre Chad Parenzee. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 10:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Andre Chad Parenzee. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070501113107/http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/judgments/Judgments2007/0427-SASC-143.htm to http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/judgments/Judgments2007/0427-SASC-143.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:08, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]