Talk:Anchusa officinalis

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Rjjiii talk 14:59, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the English herbalist Nicholas Culpeper claimed that eating the leaves of alkanet would make a person's spit deadly to serpents? Source: "Of alkanet, also called Spanish bugloss or Anchusa, he says, 'anyone that had newly eaten it do but spit into the mouth of a serpent the serpent instantly dies.'" Boggs, Kate Doggett (1932) Prints and Plants of Old Gardens p. 21, 22, link
  • ALT1: ... that the English herbalist Nicholas Culpeper repeated the claim that eating alkanet not only cured snakebite but also made the person's spit instantly fatal to serpents? Source: "Dioscordes saith, it helps such as are bitten by a venomous beast, whether it be taken inwardly, or applied to the wound ; nay, he saith further, if any one that hath newly eaten it, do but spit into the mouth of a serpent, the serpent instantly dies." Culpeper, Nicholas (1814) Culpeper's Complete Herbal : To Which Are Now First Annexed His English Physician Enlarged, and Key to Physic. London: Richard Evans p. 3 link
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hindu Mela
  • Comment: I think it fair to say that he claimed this even though he said his source was Pedanius Dioscorides. But put in an Alt in case.

5x expanded by MtBotany (talk). Self-nominated at 22:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Anchusa officinalis; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Excellent article. I prefer the first hook. I would consider adding a bit more context such as "English botanist Nicholas Culpeper" or "17th-century botanist Nicholas Culpeper claimed", but this is not required. Jaguarnik (talk) 19:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Jaguarnik, that's a good thought. How about "the Roundhead and herbalist Nicholas Culpeper" or "the English herbalist Nicolas Culpeper"? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 21:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I think the second one option you've provided is better; the first one isn't bad either but adding the fact that he was a Roundhead isn't really relevant to him being a botanist/herbalist and making a claim about the properties of the plant. Jaguarnik (talk) 22:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

That's fair. I also prefer ALT0. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 22:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)