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This article might as well mention (or list) all the languages classified as Anatolian languages. Alexander 007 07:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

While Lycian is considered to be clearly a descendant of Luwian (though possibly of a dialect slightly different from those attested), Lydian is not considered by Anatolianists to be a descendant of either Hittite or Luwian. No such claim is to be found in the specialist literature. The only place I have encountered it is on some amateur websites, where no evidence for the claim is given. To be sure, I consulted Craig Melchert, one of the leading Anatolianists, who confirmed that none of the experts consider Lydian a descendant of Hittite or Luwian. Talk of "admixture" of Hittite is not only unsupported by the literature but is vague. "Admixture" is not a technical term in historical linguistics. What is this intended to mean?Bill 06:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

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Rewrites & Additions

I've rewritten and expanded much of the article to provide better sourcing and explanation of the features of the language family, as well as clarify the thornier issues around gender and other archaisms. Any commentary or additional sourcing for the phonology and grammar would be welcome. TheLateDentarthurdent (talk) 18:38, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

outdated literature

The references 2,3 are since long outdated. The latest Bouckaert et al. corrections by Atkinson, regarding a severe counting error and significantly younger dates, was published in Science 2013.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:8093:582B:458:ED0C (talk) 17:17, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Rigidly ordered slots

No doubt this is true, but as written this may strike the reader as more remarkable than it really is. In English we say walkers' but not *walks'er, and we could describe the situation as just such a rigid ordering, demanding that the verb-to-agent-noun-particle -er must precede the plural marker -s, which itself must come before the genitive marker ' (I am glossing over the fact that this last marker is mute, which explains incidentally why so few people know how to spell it). 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:90BF:94E1:70DD:6587 (talk) 08:35, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Turkish

Removed: "Some words descended from the Anatolian languages may still live in the modern Turkish language, especially place names such as Side and Adana."

First of all, place names are not words. Second of all, no source was provided. Third of all, this was added together with fringe material that was already deleted by another editor.

While there MIGHT actually be Hittite words that passed into Greek and thence into Turkish, the words provided by the person who added this material were not among them. If anyone has a scholarly source for Turkish words that can be traced back to Hittite, please add.Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 21:33, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Toponyms are too words! But they are not core lexical items, which is what they would have to be in order that the point be remarkable at all. Otherwise Terlincthun in Pas-de-Calais would count as evidence that Dutch "lives on" in French (which is incidentally true, but has to be attested by proper lexical items such as the word houle). 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:90BF:94E1:70DD:6587 (talk) 08:39, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

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