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Best Serbian player?

Best serbian tennis player ever! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ManiaC (talk • contribs). 21:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

She isn`t, if you look statistics. Best is, by far Jelena Dokic. :))) --Göran Smith 21:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Jelena Dokic is just Serbian-Born tennis player...i must remind you that she was playing for Australia.By the way: Ana Ivanovic is best looking tennis player too :) ManiaC 00:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Dokic has flown the flag for Australia and for Yugoslavia, and also its successor Serbia & Montenegro. Not being the biggest of tennis fans, I am not sure whom she currently represents. It means very little anyhow because tennis is an individual sport in which the country celebrates if their national representative wins a final, particularly against a different national. Not like two Australians playing in the final and thinking "ah, let's not try too hard, we as Australia have won anyway!". Jelena Dokic was born in Osijek; that was Yugoslavia at the time of her birth, and Osijek is actually in Croatia. I believe that Serbian is her ethnic affiliation. So when one speaks of a Serbian tennis player, they perhaps mean the ethnicity rather than statehood; as such, this could mean Alex Bogdanovic of Great Britain, but not Monika Seles, who despite having represented Yugoslavia and came from Serbia, is infact Hungarian. It's a case of give and take here. Evlekis 18:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC) Евлекис

The best Serbian-born player ever is Monica Seles, but she played for Yugoslavia and USA. The best player ever who played for Republic of Serbia is Jelena Jankovic. So, both Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Dokic are not best in any way. Vanjagenije 18:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

This depends on your criteria for "best Serbian tennis player". If you compere all accomplishments (rank in singles, rank in doubles, singles titles, doubles tittles, win/loss statistics). When Seles was on her career high (1991-93), she played for Yugoslavia and she is from Vojvodina (present SERBIA); and Dokic, also ... she was on her career high when she played for Yugoslavia, she is Serbian who lived in Serbian, not Montenegro. In conclusion, no one can add "...she is best Serbian player ever", because that wouldn't be from neutral point of view. --Göran Smith 19:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

the best player from Serbia(Yugoslavia) is Monica Seles... Dokic was never no 1 in the world.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.200.241.70 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 12 June 2007.

With her 1990 victory at French Open, Monika Seles is the first person from Serbia (at that time Socialist Republic of Serbia/Yugoslavia) who won a Grand Slam. Serbia did not start to exist with the latest Republic of Serbia. Serbia has existed before in Yugoslavia as a Socialist Republic of Serbia. I don't know if Monika is still citizen of Republic of Serbia (with USA residence and citizenship) but likely she still is. Therefore this is yet another argument that you can not even say that Ana Ivanovic is a first women from Republic of Serbia who won a Grand Slam. However it is also not correct to say that Ana Ivanovic is a first person who won a Grand Slam while competing for a Republic of Serbia, since tennis players in Grand Slam tournaments are not competing for their countries (this is not a Davis Cup). They compete for them self only. Of course it is not correct to say that "Sales is the first Serbian women" since Sales is a Hungarian. But in USA and some other countries they say American, Canadian etc. even if they citizen may declare them selfs as South Indian, Mexican, English, German etc. My suggestion is therefore, with respect to Sales, to totally remove this topic "who is the first" from the Article. One more comment for Ana's fans. No question asked that Ana is a great player, but keep in mind that Sales have won 8 Grand Slam titles prior to her 20th birthday, same age as Ana has won her first one. Because of that and menu more other things we need to respect Sales much more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.198.252.224 (talk) 14:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)