Talk:Amlawdd Wledig

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Much of this article needs to be scrapped

At least half of this article is pure fantasy!! David Hughes' "British Chronicles" is PSEUDO-HISTORICAL FICTION!!!! Very disheartening to see it listed as a source here! Cagwinn (talk) 03:37, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

David Hughes does not appear to be mentioned on this page, what are you on about? Ogress 04:09, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

After commenting here, I removed the references to this non-scholarly, fringe pseudo-history. Cagwinn (talk) 05:02, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cagwinn and Ogress: I created this page - it was my first attempt to create anything on Wikipedia so of course I am very uncertain about how to proceed and am open to suggestion from other more experienced users. This is also my first time trying to respond using 'talk' so I'm not really sure how to do this, either, and hope I get it right. In creating the page, I tried to include terms that made clear the fact that Amlawdd Wledig is a legendary character rather than having confirmed historicity and to use words like 'disputed' and 'suggested' where the sources are uncertain. From my point of view, as someone interested in the Dark Ages, I would rather know everything that can be found about an individual and therefore be able to judge for myself whether the information is robust and to be relied upon rather than have some of the information that's available left out. My suggestion is therefore that the way to address your concerns would be for me to put back the information that was removed but to add further information to sit alongside it about the level of confidence one might have in those sources - which I believe is in itself something about which there is no complete consensus e.g. please see http://www.thenationalcv.org.uk/sources.html. After all, this is a topic and an era where there is a great deal of uncertainty and confusion between what might be considered fact and what might be legend, myth, fiction or invention and I would be happy to include further discussion on this issue or to point readers to relevant articles. Could you please let me know if you agree with my proposed solution? I wouldn't want to go to the effort of doing this work if it would simply be removed again. Thanks for commenting and I await your response with interest.Sarahealowe (talk) 12:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The big problem with the article (as it was when I first stumbled upon it), is that it made use of non-scholarly sources and contained large amounts of totally inaccurate information. That had to go (and please don't put it back). If you would like to improve upon this article (or any others relating to early medieval Britons - historical or legendary), I would suggest you make use of Peter Bartrum's Welsh Classical Dictionary, which is not only scholarly, but also freely available to download from the publishers (the National Library of Wales): https://www.llgc.org.uk/discover/digital-gallery/printed-material/a-welsh-classical-dictionary/ Cagwinn (talk) 17:04, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]