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Tommy Walker was my first boyhood hero in life, and always be a hero in my book.

Chennault was an exceptional fighter pilot. While performing in Miami with two other fellows, part of their act was to take off in P-12's with an eight foot length of rope tied to hand grips on the end of the wings and fly loops and rolls, etc Then land, all while connected. There were called the men on the flying trapeze. An emissary from China asked him to come to China to train in 1937. Chennault like Billy Mitchell was quite outspoken and would never be promoted. His hearing was already poor from radial engine noise and he was in his forties. This mission was perfect for him. He flew against the Japanese well before 1941 and there were American volunteers who flew for him. Read up on Tommy Walker in Martin Caidin's book, " Barnstormers". Chennault is credited with 37 planes shot down. This was before the AVG whose first mission was two days after Pearl Harbor. His tactical genius as a leader and trainer with an inferior airplane,P-40, brought a score of 23 kills to one aircraft lost. This will never be equalled. His fellow aviators believed and told me, that by the time he had formed the American Volunteer Group his unrecorded score probably exceeded 200 airplanes shot down. A lot more could be said Please read a book called "Ding Hao". "Ding Hao" was also the name of medal of honor AVG pilot James Howard. Just thought so much was unsaid about this consummate Aviator.

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Can someone mention or add Tommy Walker of the AVG. He is noted in Martin Cadin's book "The ragged, Rugged Warriors". He fought with great distinction, having two confirmed Claude kills.

Please help

Terrenceflynn@sbcglobal.net

Probably a member of the 14th Squadron of the CAF, or a mercenary pilot in China before 1941. There wasn't any Walker in the AVG, nor did the AVG ever encounter the A5M Claude fighter, which saw very little use in the Pacific War (i.e., after Dec 7/8).

With respect to merging AVG with the Flying Tigers article, I'm against it. The latter is awfully complex as it is. Indeed, I'd suggest moving the "2nd AVG" section out of the Flying Tigers article. Daniel Ford 10:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Harold H. Walker in the flyingtigersavg.22web.org/camco.htm CAMCO list, but as a crew cheif, and marked "**AVG member who did not fulfill their contract or was not honorably discharged when the Flying Tigers were officially disbanded, July 4, 1942".

Graeme374 (talk) 09:49, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Avg, 3rd AVG

I had planned to create an article on the 2nd AVG bomber group, but am having second thoughts. Would it perhaps be better to recast this article as having three headings, one for each AVG unit deployed or planned? The 1st AVG would of course be very brief and linked to the Flying Tigers article. The 2nd AVG section would be the longest, since this group was actually recruited and equipped, though aborted after 7 Dec 1941. The 3rd AVG section would again be short, since it was only planned, never recruited or equipped. Thoughts? I will ask this also on the Flying Tigers discussion page .AVGbuff (talk) 20:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds fine. BTW, is it time for you to have something on your user page? FWiW, your user name still comes up as a "redlink". Bzuk (talk) 20:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Gregory Boyington was from the US Marine Air Corps

In consequence, not all the members of the 1st AVG were recruited from the US Army Air Corps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 10:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Summary Section

The summary section contains some facts not supported by the main text. Perhaps some of this should be moved to a 'Planning' section.

Graeme374 (talk) 09:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Month of authorization

In which month of 1941 did Roosevelt make the authorization? I reckon it would be useful to add this in the opening section as it would highlight this was a pre-Pearl Harbor move. LukeSurl^{t c} 01:23, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found it, April 15, 1941. LukeSurl^{t c} 01:26, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]