Talk:American Studies Association

Cite for anti semitism

The Academic Boycott section is currently biased and incomplete. There is an unreferenced statement describing the ASA boycott as antisemitic. This accusation needs to be sourced or removed, and opposing viewpoints included.Afrofuturist (talk) 00:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Cite added. --Bertrc (talk) 16:39, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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Added link to the Kentucky-Tennessee American Studies Association Records, 1958-1998, Tennessee State Library and Archives. Aeriallibrarian (talk) 14:09, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Boycott criticism and responses too lengthy

This is not a news article and the information about the criticisms and responses to the criticisms is getting way too lengthy. This encyclopedia article should summarize this information, not include every single little detail or lists of and quotes from every person that agrees or disagrees with the boycott. I strongly recommend paring the entire thing down to a couple of paragraphs so this article about the entire history, organization, and activities of an association that is over 60 years old isn't completely dominated by a current event that is still developing. I urge editors to use restrain and tact when updating this article so it doesn't continue being a running log of every detail of the boycott and subsequent events. If there is new information that is essential for readers to understand this association, please consider carefully integrating it with existing information and consolidating existing information. ElKevbo (talk) 04:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

ASA's decision to boycott Israel is what propelled it into the spotlight. It is certainly the event for which the association is most famous. Where else in its 60 year history has the ASA become so widely known for? If you want to add additional material on the ASA's other activities, feel free to; but the fact that the ASA has generated nation-wide attention by becoming the first University association to boycott Israel means that this section will likely constitute a large portion of this article.(Hyperionsteel (talk) 06:07, 6 January 2014 (UTC))

But what does it profit us to continue to add quote after quote from people who condemn the boycott when they aren't really saying anything new? It quickly becomes meaningless repetition that adds little to readers' understanding of this topic. And why should we continue to add name after name to the article when it would serve us just as well to list a few prominent or representative examples and note that __ other presidents/associations/etc. have condemned (or supported) the boycott?

I'm not asking for anything to be hidden or covered up. I just want you to employ some reasonable editorial discretion when editing this article instead of continuing to add to it every single time another person or group enters the fray. This should be a coherent, succinct encyclopedia article and not an ever-growing blow-by-blow chronicle of events and persons of interest with quotes from each of them stating how their view has a subtle difference from all of the others (or worse, merely repeating already-stated views). ElKevbo (talk) 07:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

You do have a point. One option I'd like to propose is the creation a separate article dealing specifically with the ASA boycott. For example, CUPE has a separate page CUPE Ontario and disinvestment from Israel dealing with its boycott of Israel. Perhaps something similar can be applied in this instance.(Hyperionsteel (talk) 02:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC))

I agree with you both.

The same comment make sense too for the articles Academic boycotts of Israel and BDS. In these articles, we add quotes and quotes about the ASA decision. An article could be created to gather all the information and these 3 articles would refer to it and only give a relevant summary. Pluto2012 (talk) 07:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Greetings, fellow Wikipedians. I attempted to address the issues with this page noted above through two methods. First, Wikipedia NPOV guidelines state that content must be “representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views.” Therefore, I inserted responses and counterarguments so that the section was not so one-sided. Secondly, there were several lengthy (and often redundant) quotes in the body of the article. I did not any remove verifiable citations, but tried to trim the content so that viewpoints are concisely summarized or kept to around 2-3 sentences. I hope these edits accurately and respectfully reflect the viewpoints on both sides, while still maintaining the quality standards of Wikipedia. Thank you. Mollythemick (talk) 20:34, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I propose a new article called "American Studies Association's boycott of Israel" for the boycott contents. It is true that the boycott stuff is "weighing down" the page. ImTheIP (talk) 00:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

It's highly unlikely that such an article would survive AfD. ElKevbo (talk) 01:31, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't know all the policies they use for deletion but I think it would. There are lots of articles about BDS-related topics and most of them refer to the ASA boycott. Annoyingly, there is also a lot of duplicated content in other articles about the ASA boycott. ImTheIP (talk) 04:36, 25 August 2020 (UTC)