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Copyright violation

Virtually the entire article was a verbatim copy paste (including typos!) from http://nationaltheatre.org/ALOC/History.htm without crediting the source. I have re-written it as a viable stub to remove the blatant copy vio and plagiarism. To the article's creator, if you wish to re-expand the article...

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- Voceditenore (talk) 09:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from User:Cycleman

The following comment was added to the article by User:Cycleman:

Note: Most of this page has been deleted by the Wikipedia Editor for this subject area. I had no intention of committing plagiarism or slighting my friend Betty Borgen, who is responsible for the early history of the organization, and I am happy to give her credit for her work. My intention was to remove the article currently on the National Theatre wesbite, which the editor cites, replacing it by a more complete and more accessible version here. Regrettably, I do not know how to contact the editor directly. One clarification: Miss Terris was a guest of ALOC and did not appear with the company. I am hopeful that we can come to an accommodation with the editor to restore the material currently missing, which gives a much more detailed history of ALOC.

Comments like these belong here on the talk page, never in the article space. I removed it and have copied it here.Voceditenore (talk) 15:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not my personal policy or whim. It is official Wikipedia policy and it is non-negotiable. For guidance on how to obtain permission from the author and document this so it can be used on Wikipedia, please read Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Alternatively, you can re-write the article in your own words, as I outlined above. But you need to bear in mind that what is suitable style for a web page, memoire or essay is not necessarily a suitable style for an encyclopedia article. You have to be prepared for it to be edited, at times heavily, by others, and it will not necessarily preserve the original document. Also, the article will require more references to establish the subject's notability. Read Wikipedia:Verifiability and its associated pages for guidance. I also suggest you get in contact with WikiProject Musical Theatre by posting on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Theatre. They might be able to offer you assistance Voceditenore (talk) 15:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]