Talk:America's Most Smartest Model

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Grammar

The grammar problem in the title is not an opinion, and is referenced. <GeneralKlagg>

What is a "pun"?

The person undoing my encyclopedic and valid edit claims the title of the show to be a "pun". Ignoring the fact that a pun is a play on words and is a PUN OF NOTHING, I'll assume you mean the grammar error is intentional. If this is true, it needs to be referenced, as a section explaining the origin of the name. If you can do that, fine. If not, then this stands as a ridiculous error and must be included in the entry. <GeneralKlagg>

If you consider the logo for the show, the "Most" has been handwritten in and includes a lipstick mark. They're implying that a model has "corrected" the title. It's not a pun, but it's a play on the stereotype of the dumb model. ... discospinster _talk 01:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Call out order colors need updating

The colors are too dark. They can stay the colors they are, but they need to be lightened so that the black text shows up better. Just my honest opinion. —TRAiNER4 (talk • contrib) 14:23, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New call out table

THIS IS A BETTER LOOK:

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING ANY CHANGES

Episode Progress
Episodes	1	2	3	Comments
Edge Challenge<br\> Winner	Daniel	Rachel<br\>Pickle	None
Angela	IN	IN	IN
Lisa	IN	HIGH	IN
Daniel	IN	LOW	IN
Andre	IN	HIGH	IN
Jesse	IN	LOW	LOW
VJ	IN	IN	IN
Brett	WIN	IN	WIN
Pickle	IN	WIN	IN
Rachel Blond	IN	IN	LOW
Rachel Aussie	IN	WIN	HIGH
Mandy Lynn	LOW	LOW	OUT	Elimin: Balm and Gilad
Erika	IN	OUT		Elimin: Governor of Presidents
Victoria	OUT			Elimin: Balls, Cherries, Balloons, Tires
Gaston	OUT			Elimin: Balls, Cherries, Balloons, Tires
Slavco	OUT			Elimin: Balls, Cherries, Balloons, Tires
Jamie	OUT			Elimin: Balls, Cherries, Balloons, Tires

(WIN) The Model who won the competition

(WIN) The Model/s who won the Callback Challenge

(HIGH) The Model was selected as one of the top entries in the Callback Challenge, but did not win.

(LOW) The Model was selected as one of the bottom entries in the Callback Challenge, but was not eliminated.

(OUT) The chef lost that week's Callback Challenge and was out of the competition.

(QUIT) The Model voluntarily left the show.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

Do you have the information from the first two episodes to provide who was high and who was close to elimination? That could really help that table out. I haven't seen the eliminations yet, but if it is how you say, I have to agree. Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 22:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you even watch this show in the first place? every body who watched knows who is on the bottom three. Here is a hint: when Marie alice calls them on the edge of the cat walk they are in the BOTTOM THREE/FOUR, Get it know. I made this table because its better to comprehend and to look at, please refrain from doing unnecessary changes on this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.26.97.23 (talk) 20:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree that this table should be used. The callout order doesn't work with the middle of the callout. Not everyone is called out, just a select few. A Top Chef-esque Table should be used. Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 01:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that chart is honestly "CRAP" all other VH1 shows use the other table, and it should stay the same.--Yankeesrj12 23:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Before we even start the argument, let me ask you one serious question. Does Mary Alice call ALL models one by one just like Tyra Banks does on America's next top model?

Well the answer is definitely NO, with that said your so called "Chart" is not the right chart that should be used because it's unreliable and Marie Alice doesn't even call ALL of them to have this kind of chart.

So my best advice for you is to take Prozac and get to your senses Ok ?

Don't argue with me cause i know and every one here knows that "MY" table is BETTER. You are just MAD

and you said that all Vh1 shows use the SAME chart, well look at Flavor of Love Charm School they use the similar table that I use, your wrong AGAIN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.154.56 (talk) 22:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE people stop fighting. This NEW table looks better than the old one, and i think it's more reliable. Im on a consensus here (with other people)that this table is the official table for this article. Yankeesrj12, are you really that immature? i bet your a 12 year old boy who got nothing to do but to VIOLATE wikipedia articles. Please read the "Terms of Use" before making another changes.Polarbear12345 22:55 ,27 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polarbear12345 (talk • contribs)

IMO this table isn't very good, but if you have decided to use it them at least weed out all references to "chef"... 62.113.159.156 01:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have no opinion on the table other than the one in the article is overly complicated for a lousy reality program. Also, if you're going to use the new graph, at least make certain you spell "loser" correctly. --ScreaminEagle (talk) 18:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brett & Pickel

Whoever wrote that Brett and Pickel have moved into an apartment together needs to find a source. Otherwise it appears you are lying. Until a source can be provided it will be deleted. Thank You! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartie.Pantz4 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh........ its all over youtube. eh..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.235.167.119 (talk) 08:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The show's own website and the interviews contained therein said that they moved in together after the show and even that the network had considered doing a reality show with the two as the stars. --68.49.60.129 (talk) 17:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tone

This article reads like it is a promotional blurb for the show: "Who will make the callback, and who will be sent packing?". Google has convinced me it isn't copied from somewhere, but it still needs to be change to be encyclopedic. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ethics

The show provides an environment in which radical individualism and "win at all costs" behavior is promoted and rewarded. In various clips both Mary Alice Stephenson and Ben Stein overtly emphasize this, and when questioned on it by contestants use their positional power to silence dissent. The design of the show is reminiscent of the worst of John Nash's Game Theory experiments. The ethics of placing people in situations where cheating and sneakiness are rewarded, and agreeableness and conscientiousness are punished, are perhaps questionable at best, and if taken as a proxy for life within the industry would suggest that people such as Mary Alice should be using their influence and positional power to change that rather than celebrate it or indeed produce a show that in essence a training ground for what amount to sociopathic behavior patterns. From a memetic point of view, Stein and Stephenson are attempting to spread the idea that pure self-interest is the best personal value.

One can perhaps excuse John Nash to some degree since he was suffering paranoid schizophrenia at the time, but one can but question the reason why either Stein or Stephenson thought it good to structure this show as they did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.29.88.117 (talk) 17:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]