Talk:Ambattar

History is mentioned as physicians, trade as barbers not mentioned in introduction

Throughout north east Sri lanka, in the modern day, renowned as barbers and only attested to as physicians and midwives as traditional crafts, and only as barbers later referred as such in the main text - any opinions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlbusWulfricDumbledore (talk • contribs) 11:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

"-ar" ending or "an" ending

This recent edit move, [1], I moved the article name from Ambattan to Ambattar. It might be true that many of the sources uses the "-an" ending, however, this ending is disrespectful and deragotory in the Tamil language (and also is the singular form of the name) and the "-ar" ending is more appropriate:

For service caste names, the respectful and currently used ending '-ar' is employed rather than the formerly common (and disrespectful) '-an' (i.e., Pallar or Paraiyar, rather than Pallan or Paraiyan). Xenani (talk) 21:20, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Xenani if you are acknowledging that more reliable sources use ambattan, you must revert. See WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CENSORED. - Sitush (talk) 05:37, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

References

It is essentially the older sources that uses "ambattan" (eg. ), while most newer sources uses "ambattar"(eg. , I will contribute further with this article, and have found newer sources of which all uses "-ar" ending). It is also strange to keep the "-an" ending when almost every tamil caste article has the "-ar" ending (See [2]). Also, WP:COMMONNAME also states:

Neutrality is also considered; see § Neutrality in article titles, below. Article titles should be neither vulgar (unless unavoidable) nor pedantic.

Therefore, I think we should better stick to the more appropriate "-ar" ending rather than the rude "-an" ending. Xenani (talk) 21:34, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

the ambattar word was used to degrade or dishonured a group of ethinic people. so this name was removed from the tamilnadu government a part of indian government and changed as maruthuvar community published in government gazzete.see below link http://www.bcmbcmw.tn.gov.in/bclist.htm Bala1995619 (talk) 12:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Redirect of Nassuvan

Per Talk:Nassuvan, that article is to be redirected to this one. I suspect there are other synonymous stubs that will get the same treatment sooner or later. - Sitush (talk) 03:33, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

changing the article title ambattar to maruthuvar

the ambattar word was used to degrade or dishonured a group of ethinic people. so this name was removed from the tamilnadu government a part of indian government and changed as maruthuvar community published in government gazzete.see below link http://www.bcmbcmw.tn.gov.in/bclist.htm this approved link was given in content in the word maruthuvar. maruthuvar community was given under most backward class section in serial number 162. kindly consider and rechange the ambattar word in the title and allow to edit in the contents also.. thank you..I hope I will get some direction from your team.. Ggsankar2000 (talk) 16:45, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

See WP:COMMONNAME and WP:RM. Also please note that government documents count for little here, especially the notoriously politicised and ever-changing definitions in their caste lists. - Sitush (talk) 19:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

remove Ampaṭṭar name

maruthuvar is another name of ambattar , this caste name hurt caste people must be rename Bala1995619 (talk) 12:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

அம்பட்டர் என்பதிற்கு பதிலாக மருத்துவர் என பெயர் மாற்றம் செய்வது தொடர்பாக

அம்பட்டர் எனும் வார்த்தை கூறிப்பிட்ட இன மக்களை கொச்சை படுத்தும் வார்த்தையாகவும் அந்த இன மக்களை அசிங்கபடுத்தும் ஒரு வார்த்தை ஆகும் , இந்த வார்த்தை அரசினால் பயன்படுத்துவது கிடையாது , தமிழக அரசு இந்த இன மக்களுக்கு மருத்துவர் என பெயர் வைத்துள்ளது

ஆதாரம் http://www.bcmbcmw.tn.gov.in/bclist.htm Bala1995619 (talk) 12:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)