Talk:Amatriciana sauce

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Missing info!

Pasta sauce, no doubt... but what pasta? The article doesn't say, even though there is a general agreement, at least in Rome, that amatriciana should be used with bucatini or rigatoni, with people in Amatrice sticking to vermicelli. Bucatini all'amatriciana is what one usually finds in Roman restaurants. Shouldn't this be in the article?--93.40.90.53 (talk) 08:08, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In fact it is one of the sauces (like alla carbonara but very unlike, whatever non-Italians make of it, to bolognese) which actually is used, and preferredly, with spaghetti.--2001:A61:260C:C01:39BA:26F0:4246:4F6F (talk) 11:25, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Highly Questionable Statement

This is excusable if written by someone living in Northern Italy or in other countries, but it sounds totally outlandish to someone like me who grew up in Lazio and lives in Rome:

"For example, the addition of garlic sauted in olive oil ("soffritto") before adding guanciale is widely accepted, whereas the use of onion in its place is strongly discouraged."

Huh? The use of onion strongly discouraged... by who? It's the standard recipe, at least in Rome. There are some who add garlic to onions in the soffritto, but this is a variation, surely not the standard Roman recipe. But there is a confusion between the Amatriciana as it is prepared in Amatrice--which is the birthplace of the dish--and the current Roman recipe. Saying that onions are discouraged because they are not used in Amatrice (something which has been probably taken from the Italian article) is quite ludicrous. Discouraged by what authorities? Forbidden by a law? Will the police arrest you if you do it?--93.40.124.87 (talk) 18:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My dear 93.40.124.87, the problem is that the people from Amatrice think they OWN the recipe. And it is not even known if the sauce really comes from Amatrice. Do you know of any other Italian recipes that derive their name from such a small town (less than 3 thousand people)?--94.37.121.137 (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There might be some reason for that as Amatrice lies on the road that connects Rome with Norcia, the town in Umbria where most salumi came from in ancient times. "Norcino" is the common italian terms for a salumi-maker, and norcineria is the shop where they mostly sell salami, prosciutti, lonze, etc. So it may happen that a commonly used word comes from a very small town. Having said that, one thing is etymology, another thing is cuisine. Of course, like many dishes that have enjoyed a great success, amatriciana has today several varieties--not all of them really good, but that's a matter of taste--and many think that they have the only original authentic real recipe, even though their recipes differ.93.40.90.53 (talk) 08:05, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sauce

The dish is bucatini (or spaghetti) all'amatriciana, and it is uncommon (though not unheard of) to talk of "sugo all'amatriciana. If you look in Italian cookbooks, they talk about pasta dishes, not pasta sauces. So the lead of this article should be something like:

Bucatini (or spaghetti) all'amatriciana is a dish of pasta with...
All'amatriciana is a type of pasta dish consisting of long dried pasta, typically bucatini or spaghetti, ...

Comments? --Macrakis (talk) 22:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Macrakis. The page is correct, although in Italy "amatriciana" refers mainly to the dish, but on an encyclopaedic level the article is correct (example: https://www.buonissimo.it/lericette/3793_Salsa_all_amatriciana). JacktheBrown (talk) 19:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]