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Since there are several academic articles, one book and three primary sources about Altani it is better to have a separate article for this historical figure. Ortaq (talk) 11:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ortaq, please identify a reliable source which explicitly connects Altani, the wife of Boroqul, as the same person as the wife of Chormaqan/Ogedei. Please note that if there is no such source, you have perpetuated intentional original research by making up a connection with another, similarly-named woman. That is sanctionable behaviour. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2718097 Ortaq (talk) 22:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That does nothing of the sort, it is a list of names. As can be seen here, Cleaves does not "confirmed Eltina or Aylt'ana was Altani" Once more, source misrepresentation, and this time accompanied by personal attacks like the edit summary vandalism by psycho reverted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:00, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The historian and translator of The Secret History of the Mongols, Igor de Rachewiltz believed that Altani was a historical person and had two names, Altani and Tekui, as was common among Mongol elites.^[1] Ortaq (talk) 17:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Igor de Rachewiltz (trans. and ann.) The Secret History of the Mongols: A Mongolian Epic Chronicle of the Thirteenth Century. Netherlands: Brill, 2006, p. 805-806

[1] Igor de Rachewiltz (trans. and ann.) The Secret History of the Mongols: A Mongolian Epic Chronicle of the Thirteenth Century. Netherlands: Brill, 2006, p. 805-806

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