Talk:Alister Clark

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This site is in its initial stages. Let me know what you think is needed. Erictimewell (talk) 07:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would much prefer Alister Clark to be kept well away from WikiProject Australia. Erictimewell (talk) 13:10, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eighty per cent of the way. I would like many more photos, some of them in a gallery at the end of the page. But not yet. Erictimewell (talk) 13:09, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank goodness the article is of low importance. It is nearly finished. Erictimewell (talk) 12:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently "this article is written like a personal reflection or essay rather than an encyclopedic description of the subject. Please help improve it by rewriting it in an encyclopedic style." Go ahead and rewrite it. I like it the way it is. A wider point: if you look at the encrustation of the article with injunctions and low ratings as a contribution to (a) Australian Biography, (b) Australian Society and (c) Plants, not to mention chronic problems with the image police, you can see a major shortcoming of current Wikipedia process. None of the monitors knows anything about the subject. If they did they would know that this piece as it stands is far and away the best short treatment of the subject, on or off the web. Try doing a Google search on "Alister Clark" and see how you get on. Yet Clark has been a significant shaper of Australian culture. Erictimewell (talk) 02:55, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to have new contributors on board, shamelessly writing in a "personal reflection or essay" manner. Erictimewell (talk) 00:33, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article has now reached a kind of maturity. It no longer needs many photos because its sister site, Alister Clark Memorial Rose Garden, has photos of nearly every still-extant rose. The biography could do with some expansion on Clark as huntsman, daffodil breeder, racing club chairman and society figure, but the essential material which justified his having an article in the first place is all here. There is also the aesthetic evaluation of his roses, but that is simply beyond the positivism of Wikipedia as currently practiced. Erictimewell (talk) 02:10, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]