Talk:Alex Lely

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
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- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

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A fact from Alex Lely appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 April 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Dutch pool player Alex Lely won the 1999 World Pool Masters Tournament and collected autographs from his opponents?

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I agree! He clearly hit the ground running as a pool player in 1999. I'll update the above as soon as I can. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have now fixed the issues above. I will tag paywalls over time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, ready to go then. Juxlos (talk) 09:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Nova Crystallis (talk · contribs) 06:35, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing later. Nova Crystallis (Talk) 06:35, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any info on the 2005 and 2009 Mosconi Cups? It's not in his career section.
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Lely would be a part of the successful team at the 2008 Mosconi Cup." Probably should add that he was the non-playing captain.
- added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Don't see the reason to duplicate refs 4, 6, and 23 from one source.
- Combined Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And also, probably not the right quote for the latter. "It was my debut in the World Pool Masters and I was collecting autographs of my fellow competitors" is what I found in the ref.

- removed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Add publishers to references, and archive dates need to be fixed for consistency.
"thanks to his win at the Masters." ProPool might be a better source, since it shows that he was on the team unlike AZBilliards.
- Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Despite surprisingly" WP:EDITORIAL.
- Reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 11 (Billiard-Walker) doesn't show year 2000.
- Changed ref Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 15 needs an archive link.
No need to link Ralf Souquet more than once.
- fixed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Any chance you can translate the name of the Polish player that Lely defeated in the 2005 European Pool Championships Eight-ball event?
- Yah, it's my boy Tomasz Kapłan. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would be a good idea to add that the reference is in Russian too.

- - Tagged Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"2007 WPA World Nine-ball Championship he retired" Comma after championship.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For ref 19, the author should be put in the right location in {{cite web}}.
Ref 20 needs a date.
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 26 has an author.
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it's just me, but Ref 28 looks really sketchy compared to other sources used.
- Sadly, that was just the quality of the old World Pool Masters site. I don't think the WPA fixed the site very quickly after they inherited it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Pictures are fine; OTRS approved.
- Ideal. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That should be it. Nova Crystallis (Talk) 02:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Should cover it, Nova Crystallis. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:56, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]