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I removed this paragraph from Hijuecutivo as it had no citations for relatively large assertions and very poor grammar. ″The Old Goths and Greeks had Solar Cults referring to 'Alberich'; when bishop Ulfilas first spoke them about Jesus (Ulfilas belonged to Arianism), he warned all their previous deities being devils, a concept arriving to french literature and music, presenting them and German women as close to lawless witches. Greeks soon realized it could not be a deity one who runs always the same path, as a donkey tied to a treadmill, and abandoned the Solar deity, later hidden in that of Apollyon" Grill (talk) 11:31, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why is it markworthy what Alberich is in French?

It (for somewhy) reads: “ His name means "ruler of supernatural beings (elves)", and is equivalent to Old French Auberon (English Oberon).”

Did not even worry what Alberich is in English nevermind Spanish, French, Italian nor Yiddish and so on and forth. So why have we all to brook, bear and weather what Alberich is matched with in French? 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:DD5A:79A9:E7A8:B0E7 (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's what the source says. We cannot just invent Yiddish parallels just because you would like them, and we should not delete the Auberon reference just because you do not like it. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by “It’s what the source says”?

…again, Why in heavens is the French match (‘Auberon’) for the name Alberich being pushed and offloaded upon Englishspeaking humanity in this herein wiki but not for byspell, the Andorran, Spanish, Italian, Greek, Walloon pidjin, Latin, Breton, Welsh, Irish, Pictish, Freeslandish, Occitan, and so forth? 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:4117:ABDD:3908:E363 (talk) 15:11, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article says is equivalent to Old French Auberon (English Oberon).[1]. If you click on the number [1] at the end, you see that the source for that sentence is Gillespie 1973, p. 4.. Further down, you will find that this refers to Gillespie, George T. (1973). Catalogue of Persons Named in German Heroic Literature, 700-1600: Including Named Animals and Objects and Ethnic Names. Oxford: Oxford University. ISBN 9780198157182. This is a book, and that book says that Alberich is Auberon in French. It also say other things, and those things are in other places in the article where that source is linked.

Gillespie probably did not mention any of the other languages you would like, and that is the reason why we do not mention any of the other languages.

That is how Wikipedia works: we say what sources say.

If you are not interested in a bit of information Wikipedia supplies for you, the default reaction of a normal person is to ignore that bit of information, not to complain about it. --Hob Gadling (talk) 09:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is Alberich an elf or dwarf or something like an halfbreed of both or even something even else?

An half dwarf, half elf? or some kind of ‘hammer of the elfs’?

“His name means "ruler of supernatural beings (elves)" 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:DD5A:79A9:E7A8:B0E7 (talk) 23:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Differentiating non-existent beings into clearly defined "elves", "dwarves", "gnomes" and so on happened long after the Old Norse myths were made. It is anachronistic to demand such pigeonholing here. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]