Talk:Alan Lee (illustrator)

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Awards don't belong in the lead?

Why not? Bertport (talk) 04:38, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They can be in the lede, but not the lede sentence. Lee isn't defined by the awards and nominations he has received, however, they should be mentioned later in the lede. BOVINEBOY 2008 :) 04:47, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:LEAD#First sentence, the first sentence should answer, "why is the subject notable?" if possible, and awards certainly contribute to accomplishing that. And please note, it is spelled "lead", not "lede" or "leade". Bertport (talk) 14:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The award isn't why the person is notable, but the work that is done. And the word is sometimes spelled "lede". BOVINEBOY 2008 :) 22:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Award-winning" and sibling adjectives certainly don't belong in the lead without explanation and don't belong in the first clause of the lead sentence ever.

Nor do award category names belong in the infobox. Beside shortening them I have replaced {plainlist} with {{awd}}. -P64

...and the above is why wikipedia has failed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.100.53 (talk) 17:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect the variant "lede" started as an in-joke that has taken on a life of its own.137.205.101.185 (talk) 10:21, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

British or English?

Do we know whether he considers himself nationally British as we say label him in the infobox or English as we describe him in the lead? See UK:NATIONALS. --P64 (talk) 21:28, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources

{{Authority control}} in the footer links some library catalogue data. For now a better point of entry to Lee in the U.S. national library is to search "Lee, Alan"; "Author keyword". Our AL is currently the first surname Lee, number 11 in the list, with 22 hits.

Kirkus Reviews covered both the Iliad and Odyssey retellings by Rosemary Sutcliff and Lee.

"Black Ships Before Troy: {...}". Kirkus Reviews. 15 October 1993.
"The Wanderings of Odysseus {...}". Kirkus Reviews. 15 May 1996.

(I have used them both at Black Ships Before Troy —we have only the one book article— but not here.) ... and the Metamorphoses retelling by Adrian Mitchell

"Shapeshifters: {...}. Kirkus Reviews. 15 August 2010.

--P64 (talk) 20:25, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ISFDB: editions of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings illustrated by Lee.

* Nov 1991, US hardcover "This profusely illustrated hardcover Tolkien centenary (1892-1992)edition." quoting Broecker[1]

* 1991, 19th UK hardcover printing "This edition contains fifty full color illustrations specially commissioned from artist Alan Lee to commemorate the centenary of J.R.R.Tolkien's birth." evidently quoting the publisher

* The Hobbit: Sep 1997, US hc; same, 6th UK hc printing (from boxed set of both)

* 2010, trade paper omnibus ed of both (2064pp!)

--P64 (talk) 20:22, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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