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Death

"King, who smoked cigars (a fact that came up in his routines from time to time), died at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan on May 9, 2004, from lung cancer. He was buried in Mount Hebron Cemetery in Flushing, Queens. He is survived by his wife."

"SURVIVED BY HIS WIFE!"

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Requested move 6 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved as clear consensus has been established. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Music1201 ^talk 04:06, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alan King (comedian) → Alan King
Alan King → Alan King (disambiguation)

– WP:PRIMARYTOPIC latest views are 45,563 comedian 2,092 dab page 1,666 horse racer 321 footballer 239 Alan R. King, and the comedian is the only one with any long-term significance. Nohomersryan (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support – The comedian (and actor, and author, etc) is clearly the primary topic per statistics above. SteveStrummer (talk) 07:37, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - No doubt on the page view stats, and he is probably the one with the most widespread significance which readers will come here to look for. --Bcp67 (talk) 20:50, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Alan who? No primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:41, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- King. Since when do you have to have heard of someone for there to be a primary topic? There would be none ever in that case. Nohomersryan (talk) 21:12, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Being personally unfamiliar with someone is no reason at all whatsoever to oppose a move. Unreal7 (talk) 07:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Boxing

No trace has ever been found of his boxing career or of a Canadian boxer called King who beat a 20-0 opponent in that period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.120.17.233 (talk) 16:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The reason there's no trace of a Canadian boxer named King in that period is because King was not Canadian and fought under the name Alan Knight.

I am not sure what you mean by "who beat a 20-0 opponent in that period." Your comment seems to imply that his opponent had a 20-0 record. The article claims that King won twenty straight bouts. Maybe I am misunderstanding something.

There's plenty of traces of his boxing career; however, you are correct, there is no verification of his record.

“I used to be a boxer,” says longtime comedian Alan King in his handsome office high above New York’s Seventh Avenue. King, whose grandfather was a rabbi, holds court in his office, discussing a career that includes comedy, acting, production, writing and boxing. “I was pretty good,” says King, recalling his early days on the Lower East Side, the Borscht Belt and beyond. “So one time I’m in Canada and I fight this black kid who pummels me, I mean really beats me up good, and I’m thinking, This is no way for a Jewish boy to make a living.” That pummeling prompted the young Irwin Alan Kniberg to adopt a new career: comedy. “The guy’s name was King, the guy that I fought, and I started using that as my last name onstage.”

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=JW19961220.2.83&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------

ALAN KING:

YES, I BOXED IN VANCOUVER…IN TORONTO, CANADA….HAMILTON, ONTARIO…EXCUSE ME. I BOXED A YOUNG BOY WHO BEAT THE HELL OUT OF ME WHOSE LAST NAME KING AND I WAS CHANGING MY NAME ALL OF THE TIME…KNIGHT…WHATEVER…EVERY FIGHT I HAD ANOTHER NAME. HIS NAME WAS ARTHUR KING (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/24191) AND HE WENT ON TO BE THE LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION IN CANADA YEARS LATER. I LEFT TOWN AND I WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE….I WAS ILLEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY, IT WAS WAR YEARS AND I HADN’T LEGALLY REGISTERED AS AN ALIEN IN CANADA. SO THEY SAID, “WHAT’S YOUR NAME?” AND I SAID, “KING” AND I KEPT IT. IN THOSE DAYS, ESPECIALLY IN SHOW BUSINESS, SMALL ENOUGH TO FIT ON THE MARQUE

https://www.arleneherson.com/celebrities/alan_king_transcript.htm

The muscular King was not only a talented boxer but a born singer, mimic and comedian who imitated heroes Al Jolson, Jack Benny and Bob Hope, even forming his own combo, Earl Knight and His Musical Knights, before quitting high school at 16 and moving to Canada where he boxed professionally.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1993-04-09-9302040933-story.html

Alan King said he took the last name (King) in tribute to the boxer who broke his nose, ended his undefeated boxing record of 20-0 and ended his boxing career.

Alan King claimed that as Alan Knight he won 20-straight professional boxing matches in Canada before losing to a fighter named King. He suffered a broken nose in the defeat.

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0454418/trivia (no citation for these claims). BlancheX (talk) 22:39, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where he lived for the rest of his life

This page says that King lived in Great Neck for the rest of his life. The article cited says no such thing; King never lived in Great Neck. He lived in Kings Point, which, like Great Neck, is a village in the Town of North Hempstead on Long Island. However, later in the Wiki page he writes "raised funds for the Nassau Center for Emotionally Disturbed Children (near his home in Kings Point, New York). This is why I always fact- check Wiki pages. If someone is not capable of paying attention to detail and/or proofreading their work they should not be writing wiki pages. Sorry, not sorry. BlancheX (talk) 06:16, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BlancheX, Unfortunately, content not found in a cited source often appears in Wikipedia articles. A few minutes ago I removed content from another article that was not in the cited source; someone added it after the citation and the original accompanying content had been posted. I think it is important to correct errors like that when we find them. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:15, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Eddie. The is why I have decided to never again read wikipedia articles. Every time I do I find factual errors. I am so tired of cleaning up after others. The unfortunate thing is that when you google something the wiki article is right at the top of the results list or on the first page of results. Most people can't be arsed to go to page two. I was one of those people until I realized that the (very little) extra effort was worth it in order to get correct information. There is absolutely NOTHING in a wiki article that cannot be found elsewhere. I am looking forward to a Wikipedia-free 2023. Sorry, not sorry. BlancheX (talk) 21:24, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Siblings

Alan King stated that he was the youngest of eight children on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson (1/6/1982; s20 ep66). PlaysInPeoria (talk) 03:33, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I saw that Tonight Show episode back in January 2021, and I made an edit to King's page shortly thereafter, stating "he was one of eight kids"... Well, some time later, some Annom. contributor on Sept. 2021 writes "(This paragraph contradicts itself, one sister or seven siblilings?)"

contributor: AA Pilot16 (talk) 17:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, this talk/reply sectolion gets wonky... So, this was the section of King's page that caused such a kerfuffle for this contributor:

He had one sister, Anita Kniberg. He spent his first years on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Later, King's family moved to Brooklyn. King used humor to survive the tough neighborhoods. The youngest of eight children, King performed impersonations on street corners for pennies. (This paragraph contradicts itself, one sister or seven siblings?) AA Pilot16 (talk) 17:31, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The last thing I wanted to add, O guess there's a character limit...

So because of the stink made, my factual contrib. gets edited out. This is what drives me crazy about Wikipedia, but I guess it comes with the territory. AA Pilot16 (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]