Talk:Alan Campbell, Baron Campbell of Alloway

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Baron cr 1981 (Life Peer), of Ayr in the District of Kyle and Carrick; ERD 1996; QC 1965; a Recorder of the Crown Court, 1976–89;

b 24 May 1917; s of late J. K. Campbell; m 1957, Vivien, y d of late Comdr A. H. de Kantzow, DSO, RN. Educ: Aldenham; Ecole des Sciences Politiques, Paris; Trinity Hall, Cambridge. Work: Called to Bar, Inner Temple, 1939, Bencher, 1972; Western Circuit. Commissioned RA (Suppl. Res.), 1939; served France and Belgium, 1939–40; POW, 1940–45. Consultant to sub-cttee of Legal Cttee of Council of Europe on Industrial Espionage, 1965–74; Chm., Legal Res. Cttee, Soc. of Conservative Lawyers, 1968–80. Member: H of L Cttee for Privileges, 1982–2000; H of L Select Cttee on Murder and Life Imprisonment, 1988–89; Ecclesiastical Cttee, 2000–; Jt Cttee on Human Rights, 2001–. Member: Law Adv. Cttee, British Council, 1974–82; Management Cttee, UK Assoc. for European Law, 1975–90. Vice Pres., Assoc. de Juristes Franco-Britanniques, 1989–90. Pres., Colditz Assoc., 1998–2004. Patron, Inns of Court Sch. of Law Conservatives, 1996–2000. Publications: (with Lord Wilberforce) Restrictive Trade Practices and Monopolies, 1956, 2nd edn, 1966, Supplements 1 and 2, 1973; Restrictive Trading Agreements in the Common Market, 1964, Supplement, 1965; Common Market Law, vols 1 and 2, 1969, vol. 3, 1973 and Supplement, 1975; Industrial Relations Act, 1971; EC Competition Law, 1980; Trade Unions and the Individual, 1980. - Kittybrewster ☎ 11:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Identity of mother of bride?

We had this, about the mother of his new bride: "Lady Elizabeth is the daughter of James Edward Harris, 5th Earl of Malmesbury and Hon. Dorothy Gough-Calthorpe, daughter of the 6th Baron Calthorpe." At the moment, I'm unable to find confirmation of these facts. I'm comfortable that we'll be adding this back tomorrow, but I'm going offline now and feared that I wouldn't get back to it tomorrow.

Additionally, an anonymous user on my talk page has said, of the bride herself:

Odd that the bride isn't listed in the profiles of her parents: mother, father. 75.60.17.6 (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So, that probably should be clarified as well.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 00:52, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course a reliable source (the announcement in The Times) states that the bride is the "daughter of the late Colonel Edward and Lady Elizabeth Berwick". I suppose you could postulate that there are two (or more) couples corresponding to the "Late Colonel Edward and Lady Elizabeth Berwick", but that's a bit like imagining that there are two (or more) "actress Halle Berry"s—we should be demanding proof from those maintaining that's the case, not from those who don't. As for the anonymous comments on your talk page, I'm not sure why someone's non-appearance on the linked website should be considered in any way odd: "thePeerage.com" is a website put up by an enthusiast (i.e., it's self-published) rather than a print publication of a recognized authority (e.g, Burke's). It makes no pretense that it presents a complete record of all the descendants of persons mentioned there. (For that matter, neither does Burke's!) "ThePeerage.com" really shouldn't be used as a source when we have better sources available. If we look to Burke's entry on the 5th Earl of Malmesbury, (it's on page 2579 of the 107th edition) we find that his daughter Elizabeth, by the Hon Dorothy Gough-Calthorpe, youngest daughter and coheiress of the 6th Baron Calthorpe, was born 8 Jan 1906, m(1) 16 Feb 1926 (div 1944) the 4th Baron Cottesloe, and had issue; m(2) 6 Feb 1944 Lt-Col Edward Walter Hall Berwick, and d. 11 Dec 1983 leaving further issue. So clearly Elizabeth did have children by Col. Edward Walter Hall Berwick, despite their non-appearance on thePeerage.com. And though Elizabeth's children by the 4th Baron Cottesloe appear, as expected, in Burke's entry on him (p. 920 in the 107th edition), her children by Col. Edward Berwick appear neither in Burke's nor on thePeerage.com, as they are not in line for any peerage title. - Nunh-huh 03:57, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Legal counsel while Prisoner of War in Germany.

I found it disappointing that this extremely brief article makes only the barest mention of his time as a POW in Colditz Castle (1940-45), and his exploits as legal counsel for other POWs being tried by the Nazis. He defended 42 cases, including saving 13 Czech RAF pilots and an American, Lt-Col. Schaeffer, from being executed. Numerous British papers mentioned this in his obituary in 2013, among them “Independent” (See https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/lord-campbell-alloway-lawyer-whose-skills-saved-lives-colditz-8709884.html). This is also discussed by Pat Reid in ch. 10 of his book, “The Latter Days at Colditz”. I would hope someone can rewrite this article to make more readable, and include some details of his heroic defense of allied prisoners. Ptilinopus (talk) 11:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]