Talk:Agenda 47/Archive 1

Archive 1

List of proposals

I could only get 46 proposals out of the website, including the cartel stuff. Have I missed one? — The Anome (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

The website shows only 46 proposals. Personally I don't see much value in just listing the title of each one without any context. As such, I've rewritten the article to provide an overview of the agenda as it is discussed in secondary reliable sources. I also reworked the lede to adhere to WP:LEDEFOLLOWSBODY. ––FormalDude (talk) 22:29, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

The agenda47 topics should be listed in bullet point

The page does not clearly list what the topics of agenda47 is, instead only a brief summary that isn't objective. A better format would be to have a bullet point paragraph that has the name of the topic, Trump's own words for what the topic covers, and an objective summary of what the topic will do and what has been noted as a concern (with citation). 2605:8D80:4C0:847:7026:69FF:FEC3:E80B (talk) 18:29, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Only the topics covered by reliable secondary sources should be listed. This is important to establish notability and be able to provide context
@Maykiwi - much of what you are adding might be removed without secondary sources. If you're not sure why, feel free to ask or read up on the policy linked above Superb Owl (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

The origin of the name should be explained

The name Agenda 47, in both name and spirit, is an obvious response to UN Agenda 21, which Trump has excoriated.

It's unlikely the Trump campaign has been official about such parallels, but at a minimum there should be broad sourcing of Trump attacking Agenda 21.172.56.169.57 (talk) 13:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

That's an interesting possibility, but to include this topic, we would need to find significant mention in independent, secondary, reliable sources.

Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 July 2024

You should remove any reference to Project 2025. It is not affiliated with Trump. Project 2025 has said this and the Trump campaign has said this. 174.179.15.53 (talk) 20:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Agenda 47 shares similarities with Project 2025, as described. Mention of Project 2025 is cited in reliable sources. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 20:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove all references to project 2025

This page is disingenuous in its references to project 2025. Agenda 47 and project 2025, while similar in wordings, are not related to each other in any way, and anyone trying to research both can easily conflate one with the other. 24.32.21.210 (talk) 11:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

The "Project 2025" See alsos need to be removed for obviously misleading readers

Since Agenda 47 is not Project 2025, those see alsos need to be removed, as having that link there at the start of every section is obviously trying to force a link where there is none (as Trump has disavowed Project 2025, and they are obviously different). Yes, there are similatrities, and they can be talked about earlier in the article, but having them there is obviously trying to undercut that separation.

Agenda 47 needs to be it's own independent thing, at least in the section where you are merely listing the policies. G5bestcfb (talk) 06:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Agree. I've removed the See alsos from the policy section that point to Project 2025. Have kept "Not to be confused with ..." at the top. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 08:55, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Links to main pages

Can someone add links to main pages? For example, under the Immigration subsection, it should refer to

Main article: Immigration policy of Donald Trump

.

Also, here's a good quote from the CNN article already quoted there: "Trump is also planning a widespread expansion of his former administration’s hardline immigration policies if elected in 2024 that would restrict both legal and illegal immigration."

Also, there are an extra quotation marks in there.

Thx. Seananony (talk) 22:00, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Massive conflation

This article conflates project 2025 and Agenda47. The two are NOT the same. For example, project 2025 would outlaw porn, while Agenda47 does no such thing. This article needs to be cleaned up and discuss only Agenda47, NOT project 2025. Trump is on record disavowing project 2025. 2601:840:8001:9500:7199:8E26:E08B:4332 (talk) 18:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

@2601:840:8001:9500:7199:8E26:E08B:4332 Where is porn mentioned on this page? Seananony (talk) 22:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Not to be confused with Agenda 21

Add to top? Seananony (talk) 16:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 July 2024

Add the web address for Agenda47 so people can look at it, as well as your Wiki entry. The web address is: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47 I do not support Trump. I'm running against him, but things should be open. Omitting the web address makes it look like you are biased, politically. 2600:8807:C211:B64E:FCB6:26DF:6C6E:2FFD (talk) 22:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

 Already done: The web address you mention already appears in the external links section, which is the appropriate location for it in Wikipedia articles. Left guide (talk) 22:22, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove Misinformation about Trump 47 and Project 2025

Trump publicly disavowed Project 2025. Source Bradshaw85 (talk) 02:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Uh huh? But his claim he didn't know about it is implausible at best ([1], [2], [3]) EvergreenFir (talk) 03:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

This is highly subjective and lacks any empirical evidence. 12.26.246.251 (talk) 17:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)