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This article shows Absalon in an extremely positive light. For centuries Saxo was revered by Danish historians, and none dared contradict him. But it must be remembered that it was Absalon who paid Saxo to write his history.

The article gives Absalon all the credit for the acomplishments of Valdemar I the Great. One gets the impression that any king would have done as much had he only had Absalon by his side.

That Sven was behind the "blood party" of Roskilde is Valdemar's (and Absalon's) version of the story. If you go to other sources, it seems as likely that it was Valdemar (and Absalon) who were behind the treachery.

The diocese of Zealand (see at Roskilde) was considerably larger than the archdiocese of Lund. The bishop of Roskilde had much larger financial resources than the archbishop. Absalon accepted the pallium once he had got permission to keep Roskilde.

--Klausok 11:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Rigs

Rig (rich) was Asser's personal byname. It is not used for any other members of the family.

Heritable surnames had not yet been invented, but later historians have given this lineage the name "Hviderne" (the Whites) from Skjalm Hvide, Asser's father. "The white" was also a personal byname, but you got to call them something.

--Klausok 11:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Garz <--> Charenza

I exchanged Garz (Rugian capitol) for Charenza, for Charenza, which was believed to be Garz, is really Venz, a ruin South of Ralswieck. Skäpperöd 13:31, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Objectivity

This text is lacking it:

Absalon remains one of the most striking and picturesque figures of the Middle Ages, and was equally great as churchman, statesman and warrior. That he enjoyed warfare there can be no doubt; and his splendid physique and early training had well fitted him for martial exercises. He was the best rider in the army and the best swimmer in the fleet.

Really now, all those claims and magnificent feats without linking to a source? Junuxx (talk) 01:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that quite possibly the text is from the Encyclopedia Brittanica Eleventh edition. --Saddhiyama (talk) 07:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even if that's true, it remains very POV. Junuxx (talk) 19:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No doubt about it. There is a change that these claims comes from the Gesta Danorum by Saxo Grammaticus, but it should still be sourced and specified, especially since Saxo wasn't exactly the most neutral of chroniclers (in fact he was blatantly pro-Absalon). I am not sure though, as it is not exactly my era of interest. --Saddhiyama (talk) 19:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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