Talk:Abigail Maheha

Major Cleanup

This article reads poorly, and needs major clean-up. Any takers? I'd contribute if I knew anything more about her, but I don't. It would seem the same person who wrote this article also "contributed"--albeit, poorly, and in a way that doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards--to the article on King Kamehameha V., —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.96.96 (talk) 03:49, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Unsource Edits

On Feb.04, 1846 at the age of 13 years old, she was forced to leave the Royal School because she was six months pregnant to a child whose biological father is non other than Prince Lot Kapuaiwa. The scandal had to be covered up by the Cooke's, Reverend Bingham, and her adoptive mother Princess Miriam Kekauonohi the former govenor of Kauai. She is then forced to marry Keaupuni, a commoner from Koloa, Kauai who is also the gardener of Princess Kekauonohi. He had attended Lahainaluna High School but he was not a royal or even a high chief. Her husband had knowledge about his pregnant wife. As a daughter of Liliha it was probably a disgrace to marry a commoner. Abigail gives birth to a daughter, Keanolani in May of that year. Of the 300 plus descendents of Abigail and Lot Kapuaiwa through Keanolani, about 150 of them still live on the island of Kauai today. They are also the only Direct Lineal Descendents of the Kamehameha Dynasty.

another version also removed: She was expelled from the Chief's Children's School on February 4, 1846 at the age of 13, and forced to live with her adoptive mother, Princess Miriam Kekauonohi. She had to leave because she became pregnant with a child of then Prince Lot Kapuaiwa. The scandal had to be covered up by the Cookes, Miriam Kekauonohi, and the Reverend Bingham with an arranged marriage to a Hawaiian commoner from Koloa, Kauai while she was six months pregnant. He had attended Lahainaluna High School but he was not a royal or even a high chief. This commoner known as Keaupuni, was also the gardener of her adopted mother, Princess Kekauonohi. Her husband had knowledge about his pregnant wife. Today, the Keaupuni family still lives on the parcel of land in Koloa, Kauai that was given to them by Miriam Kekauonohi in exchange for that service.

In May 1846, she gave birth to a girl named Keanolani in Koloa, Kauai. Prince Lot is aware of his child's birth and makes frequent visits to see her at his sister-in-law's (Queen Emma) Lawaikai Estate which is located about two miles west of the old Koloa Landing.

I suspect what someone meant was that the above information was added without sources. I will remove. I am also seeing conflicting sources, however, just in the first few I looked at. Royalark says she was born c. 1825, but she was still married to Boki then and not sure polygamy was still going on. 1832 would make more sense, if Namaile came after Boki. Royal ark also says she married Kiaaina in 1857 and Keaupuni even later. Needs research. W Nowicki (talk) 00:03, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

It's not just royal ark there's book reference supporting Namaile as the father even her classmate Elizabeth Kekaaniau supports this. I think the circa 1825 date is false and the 1832 date with months and day to be the real one. Did you see that Abigail's sister Jane Loeau was born before Boki's death. The real problem is finding all the marriages of Liliha, she had so many husbands; I think even Abner Paki was one. Polygamy would have still probably been possible in 1828. Boki and Liliha never really took Christianity seriously (they had some business in alcohol trade and prositution) they only converted to Roman Catholicism to irritate the staunch Protestant Queen Kaahumanu. Boki and Liliha were really powerful at the time and if a Christian missionary came to Kaahumanu complaining about Liliha's polygamous action, Kaahumanu may have not enough power to stop Liliha.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:59, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I found a Keanolani and her son Lot Kapuaiwa Kamehameha who died in 1917 [1], and a daughter Olga Keahikuni Kekauonohi, who died in 1907 [2]. It doesn't take a genius to piece the names together, but this edit and the one on Talk:Kamehameha V is too far-fetch to reinstate because it talks about assassinations, Kamehameha V being a bachelor on purpose even though we know that he proposed to Nancy Sumner and had affection for his sister-in-law Queen Emma, and also other names of descendants which I can't find source for. I don't know anymore.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

• http://nupepa-hawaii.com/2013/04/16/more-on-the-death-of-keanu-1902/
• http://nupepa-hawaii.com/2013/04/16/keanu-daughter-of-kamehameha-v-and-keelikolani-passes-1902/

Lanihau

There might be some link between the Governess Lanihau and her since she has been called Abigail Lanihau. [3]--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:59, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Keanolani

Source contents moved to Talk:Keanolani

Quotes to be used later

From Kaomea's source: -Amos Cooke to Rufus Anderson, 4 November 1847, Sandwich Islands Mission Collection, Hawaiian Mission Children’s Society Library, Honolulu, Hawai`i.

Abigail’s story has likewise been virtually erased in the Cookes’ letters and journals. When Amos Cooke does mention Abigail in his writing, it typically is to dismiss or discredit her. For instance, in a personal letter to Rufus Anderson, Cooke comments
“The dog is turned to his own vomit again, and the sow that was washed, to her wallowing in the mire.” This is almost true of . . . Abigail Maheha who has always been rather unpromising . . . For some years, we have thought she had better be dismissed from the school, but the certainty that she would be lost if thus dealt with, has constrained us to bear with her till we could do so no longer. She left the school, the first week in Feb. & was married to an expelled scholar of the High School, & they immediately removed to Kauai. She has since had a daughter born July 7th.

October 24, 1846 – Wednesday I had a talk with Lot, & was much pleased with his appearance, also with Abigail, but did not get so much satisfaction. In the evening Mrs. C. talked with . . . all the girls upon the subject of virtue, & especially on the subject of their intercourse with the boys.

October 20 — The Sabbath passed away as usual. It was a pleasant day without, but not so much so within. Some of our sheep were in such a condition as to excite our sympathy & others our anxious fears. Moses went over to Dr. Judd's to copy the treaty with Captain Bille, in which nothing is said about jury, liquor or duty. General Miller feels moved by it. This afternoon Mr. Richards talked with Lot & Abigail. The former feels very much ashamed, the latter little or none.

• https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015019805137;view=1up;seq=356