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2012 Carnegie and Greenaway Medals

Patrick Ness and Jim Kay have won the British CILIP year's best awards as author and illustrator, akin to (author and illustrator of) one book winning the U.S. ALA Newbery and Caldecott Medals. The British awards are open to all books published in the UK within three months of their original publication (since when is that true?); Carnegie Medal in Literature dates from 1936; Kate Greenaway Medal dates from 1955; this is the first double win for one book, by one person or two.

As I depart --the second editor to work here today, having updated the Carnegie and Greenaway articles-- this article cites Daily Telegraph news coverage of the award and The Guardian interview with Ness & Kay. Here is a longer list of references, more or less complete. Beside further work here, they will be useful for the Stub! Patrick Ness and for Jim Kay "if and when".

Bold distinguishes the two sources now given in this article (but i have added data to name=telegraph).

|ref name=guardian| "Patrick Ness wins Carnegie medal for second year running: Winner of children's books' highest honour uses acceptance speech to lambast education policy and negativity to teenagers". Alison Flood. guardian.co.uk, Thursday 14 June 2012.
|ref name=guardian-ness&kay| "How we made A Monster Calls: As their book wins the Carnegie and Kate Greenaway medals, writer Patrick Ness and illustrator Jim Kay explain how they worked together, without ever meeting, to unleash a monster hit". Patrick Ness and Jim Kay. guardian.co.uk, Thursday 14 June 2012. Retrieved 2012-06-14.
|ref name=telegraph| Lara Prendergast (14 June 2012). "A Monster Calls wins first Carnegie and Kate Greenaway prize double". Retrieved 2012-06-14.
|ref name=telegraph-ness&kay| "A Monster Calls: Patrick Ness and Jim Kay talk about their Carnegie and Greenaway wins". Nicolette Jones. Telegraph 14 Jun 2012.
name=pr2012carnegie Press Desk: AN HISTORIC MOMENT IN CHILDREN'S LITERATURE: PATRICK NESS WINS SECOND CONSECUTIVE CILIP CARNEGIE MEDAL AS "A MONSTER CALLS" DOES UNIQUE DOUBLE. CILIP 14 June 2012.
name=pr2012greenaway Press Desk: A MEDAL CALLS: JIM KAY WINS 2012 KATE GREENAWAY AWARD: AS "A MONSTER CALLS" DOES UNIQUE DOUBLE. CILIP 14 June 2012.

--P64 (talk) 19:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Date formats

Yesterday we used Retrieved date format yyyy-mm-dd and publication date dd month yyyy (dmy) --copied from theguardian without paying any attention. Previously almost everyone has used the American style month dd, yyyy (mdy) and the exception is not the first editor.

Rather than edit to match the majority, I suggest we use dmy which is the norm for UK-related articles. --P64 (talk) 17:44, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Regarding the Carnegie and Greenaway Medals won by Ness and Kay, we use two articles in The Guardian newspaper. That's an outside source worth using in other articles on CILIP medal winning works. At the same time we may/should consult other official sources here.

Beside the Carnegie Medal citation (book and author blurbs) that is now referenced in the article [ref name=medal2012], official CILIP press releases are available online. --back to 2002, so this may be essentially permanent

[ref name=prdir2012] "Releases for 2012 Awards". Press Desk. CILIP. Retrieved 2012-07-30.[/ref]

Two releases 14 June 2012 feature Ness, Kay, and Monsters of Men (the two Medal announcements, which are not (yet?) accompanied by "Background" press kits as they have been for a decade.) Four earlier releases 27 March 2012 may be useful, two "Shortlist ... announced" and two "... Judges comments on the shortlist".

The CILIP "Shadowing Site" seems at a glance to serve a youth program for the current/latest year. --As of July, 2012 is latest rather than current. Maybe it's worth a look on a slow day (but wikipedia editors never have those, eh?)

--P64 (talk) 00:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TWO MORE REVIEWS

Cottrell Boyce, Frank (6 May 2011). "A Monster Calls by Patrick Ness – review: A tale of grief and loss is strangely comforting". The Guardian.
"A Monster Calls". Kirkus Reviews. 15 July 2011.

MISSING REVIEWS. We quote reviews by Philip Pullman and Meg Rosoff in section Critical reception, previously with reference to a dated publisher presentation (not the current ref name=walker):

"A Monster Calls". Walker Books. 2010 (publisher's contemporary blurb with book trailer). Retrieved 2011-12-07. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

There I do not Pullman, Rosoff or the words we quote, nor links to reviews, so I have deleted the reference. (I do find both in a retailer presentation at Barnes & Noble[1].) The Rosoff does appear at ref name=walker, attributed to Library Mice but no reviewer. The Pullman does not appear there and I have tagged that {{citation needed}}.

--P64 (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Siobhan Dowd Trust's presentation leads with the same four-word quote of Pullman:

"A Monster Calls (2011)". The Siobhan Dowd Trust. 6 September 2011 — ("Books" blog? with links to latest news and to archives)

The Trust may be useful as a substantial source. Anyway, it links some worthy material:

"The heartbreaking children's book on cancer that every adult should read". Kate Wheeler. Mail Online. 8 September 2012. — with report of the new Adult Edition inclg cover image

Wheeler was consulting pediatric oncologist for the novel. She explains that she has recommended it to patients and notes its review by The Lancet medical journal. The Lancet review is online for subscribers or pay-per-view.

"A Monster Calls". Odhran O'Donoghue. The Lancet Oncology 13.5 (May 2012) page 458. (subscription required) — "The result is a harrowing and deeply engaging account of the heartbreaking effects that cancer has on the children of afflicted patients." (from the lead)

--P64 (talk) 20:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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