Talk:A Lesson in Romantics

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A I Get Home Your [sic] So Dead

The title of this song is actually spelled wrong, but it is the official spelling. It should be this way in the article. Doppelganger 01:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NOT SOURCED

Where is the source for the following information:

Since Lancaster sings along with Sanders for the majority of the song, Sanders lip syncs Lancaster's parts and sings his own as well. Prior to the release of "When I Get Home, You're So Dead", the band used a live video to promote "Black Cat", which was believed to be the first single. The video to this song is the second in the asset of group (taking into account the live video for the song "Black Cat").

The video is a mix of several situations which happened with the band (the prison, concert, and also the house of the singer - Derek Sanders while his girlfriend is kissing a paramour). Also is shown detention of the participants by the police for theft.

"Jamie All Over"- This song is a re-recording of the Kid Named Chicago, Lancaster, Garcia, and Bundrick's previous band's song with the same name. The video for the second single was shot on May 6 in New York and started playing on MTV2, MTVu, and MTV hits on July 21, 2008. Bassist Jeremy Lenzo lip syncs to Jason Lancaster's parts in the video. The final closing verse is sung by Daniel Lancaster of Stages & Stereos, brother of Jason Lancaster. Derek Sanders lip syncs this verse in the music video. The video shows the band playing on the stage in some casino. The song is at the same time performed by both vocalists - Derek Sanders and Jeremy Lent. At the same time, guitarists and drummer play roulette and slots. Later joined Derek Sanders surrounded by women. After that, each member of the group in turn wins at the casino. In the last seconds of the video Sanders falls at the floor and then wakes up, holding the chip in a hand.

"Miserable at Best" - The video for the third single, "Miserable at Best", was released on January 9 on the band's Myspace. In the video, drummer Jake Bundrick lip syncs to Jason Lancaster's verses. The video excludes the song's bridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.216.11.5 (talk) 12:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kees08 (talk · contribs) 05:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

This is my first take at it to knock out the quick items. So far you just need to fix the dead link, I'll get to the rest of the review in the next couple days. Placeholders are question marks, - marks (thus far) are things you can improve very quickly and will not hold up the GA status of this article, and + items you have successfully completed. I read through it once and it looks really good so far. PS, I love this album.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Miscellaneous Cleanup

"When I Get Home, You're So Dead" – 3:13 should be "When I Get Home, You're So Dead" – 3:13 according to to three separate sources I looked at. Please verify and make change if necessary.

Comment. Are the typesettings for this song the same on the EP Tales Told By Dead Friends and A Lesson in Romantics? Like on the physical copies? If so, we need to use whatever that setting is, no matter what other sources say. But if they're different, then I'll go ahead and use the sources. Which sources are these, by the way? dannymusiceditor ^{what'd I do now?} 14:38, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just checked both Tales Told and Romantics - they list it with the comma. Yeepsi (talk) 14:46, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fix up these sentences
- A Lesson in Romantics was recorded in early 2007 produced by Zack Odom and Kenneth Mount.
- The band then went on the 2008 edition of Warped Tour.
- Mayday Parade went on the 2007 edition of Warped Tour,[21] and following this, A Lesson in Romantics was released on July 10 through Fearless Records.
- In June 2006 the band released an EP, Tales Told by Dead Friends, which they sold to people attending Warped Tour; it eventually sold 10,000 copies. (when I read this the first time, I thought they sold it because they were playing at Warped Tour that year)

I think I'm Done with these, but if you've got a better idea for the EP change let me know. dannymusiceditor ^{what'd I do now?} 14:38, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I also can't find a source for a 2008 reissue.

The liner notes are a testament to the fact that this exists. dannymusiceditor ^{what'd I do now?} 14:38, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've just found this[1] with what I presume to be the release date (25 April 2008) for the reissue but I'm not sure if it's an RS? Yeepsi (talk) 14:56, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Yeepsi: Per WP:QUESTIONED, I wouldn't use that for a date. If it were used to prove that it existed, that's another story, but I wouldn't use it for when it came out. dannymusiceditor ^{what'd I do now?} 15:14, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I've found this review from The Skinny[2] that has "Release Date: 28 Apr" at the bottom. Yeepsi (talk) 15:36, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've added this reference in as a footnote. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 18:56, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

After these (very, very minor) issues are addressed, I'll go ahead and approve for GA. If you don't agree with any of my assessments, just let me know, I'm fairly reasonable.

This is also my first GA assessment, and I tried to follow the guideline the best that I could, but if you have any feedback for my review compared to your other reviews it would be much appreciated as well. Thanks! Kees08 (talk) 05:43, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done - "When I Get Home, You're So Dead" is listed on the album sleeve with the comma. Yeepsi (talk) 14:38, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! Everything looks great. Promoting article to GA status Kees08 (talk) 05:53, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]