Talk:A Beautiful Crime

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:20, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that according to Christopher Bollen, much of his 2020 novel A Beautiful Crime was written in a 17th-century monastery? Source: [1]

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Drewanz

Created by DanCherek (talk). Self-nominated at 23:43, 4 September 2021 (UTC).

• The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations. The hook is directly cited. A QPQ has been completed. This is approved. SL93 (talk) 19:51, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:A Beautiful Crime/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 03:21, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Starts GA Review. The review will follow the same sections of the Article. Thank you --Whiteguru (talk) 03:21, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

 

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Observations

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

   HTML document size: 95 kB
   Prose size (including all HTML code): 18 kB
   References (including all HTML code): 34 kB
   Wiki text: 24 kB
   Prose size (text only): 11 kB (1785 words) "readable prose size"
   References (text only): 4207 B

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

• Lede is a neat introduction.
• Plot is short and sharp.
• How an author portrays his characters: sympathetic yet with greed and immorality besieged by social inequality.
• Background and publication history is good, references to Daisy Miller and Henry James suffice well.

1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

• This article suffers from over-linking.
• I am not sure overtourism needs a link in the lead. Best left to the relevant section.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• Pace refers to pace in narrative, this link is appropriate.
• In the Plot section, we do not need links to Venice, nor New York City.
  • Delinked both DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• Palazzo has already been linked in the lead, see WP:OVERLINK as the guide.
  • Delinked the second one DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• My sense is that linking expatriate is overlinking. It is a common term.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• Patricia Highsmith is linked in the lead; further links are not necessary.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• Do we need a link to Peggy Gugghenhiem Collection? Is this necessary to appreciate its inclusion? Consider.
  • I removed the link in the caption but have kept the one in the plot description since it is a specific, real-world location being referenced later in the article and that readers may not be familiar with. Let me know if I've misunderstood your comment and if you think that link should be removed as well.
• That's fine, that is a reasonable inclusion; we can have that link.
• Everyone knows where Paris is, we do not need a link.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• Links to Mestre and Linosa - are these necessary to grasping the narrative, the location? Consider.
  • Replaced "Mestre" with "the city"; replaced Linosa with "a nearby island" Y
• We do not need a link to doorstop.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• In Background and publication history we do not need a link to Ohio.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• We do not need links to non-profit organisation, nor monastery.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• Airbnb is a term in the public domain. Link is not necessary.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• We don't need links to hardback, paperback nor audiobook.
  • Delinked all DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) {{aye}
• Social class is a self-evident term, it does not need a link.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y
• Patricia Highsmith has been linked in the lead. A second link is not needful.
  • Delinked DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Y

1. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

• Overtourism is well referenced.
• Reception is balanced: praise and criticism.

1. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

• Yes, NPOV is preserved in this article;

1. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

• Page created 5 September 2021
• Page is stable

1. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

• Page has 6 images
• File:A Beautiful Crime book cover.jpg = Book cover, fair use claimed
• File:Canale di Cannaregio - Viewed from Grand Canal.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
• File:PI5DAE~2 - CopyPeggy Guggenheim Museum.JPG = Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license.
• File:Christopher Bollen Librairie Mollat interview 2016.png = Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license.
• File:Cruiseship passing bacino San Marco Venise.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported, 2.5 Generic, 2.0 Generic and 1.0 Generic license.
• File:Highsmith on After Dark.JPG = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license.

1. Overall:

• This is a well crafted article about a work of fiction, if a little overlinked.
• Good work on the references and obtaining archived versions.
• If we can sort the overlinking, then nothing else stands in the way of a GA assessment for this article. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:27, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

• @Whiteguru: Thanks for the comments! I agree with pretty much all of the overlinking that you pointed out and have delinked all (responded in more detail to each point above) but I've left one link to Peggy Guggenheim Collection (see comment above). Let me know what you think and/or if you have any additional feedback. DanCherek (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
  • @DanCherek: We have a good resolution here. Thanks for all your work. --Whiteguru (talk) 01:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

 

 Passed