Talk:ABC Wasp

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This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion not met Supporting materials: criterion met

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Peer Review

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Born2flie

Peer review (see here for criteria)

Peer review, as requested on WP:Aviation's Peer review. Conducted on 29 December 2008.

Prose
a. well written: b. comprehensive: c. factually accurate: d. summary style:
- first sentence contains awkward reference to indirect object, the engineer. Possibly rewrite the sentence to not include the awkward reference to previous employment.
- short article, closer to Start-Class as it does not adequately cover the development of the engine, such as the impetus for beginning the development and the reasons for ceasing development.
- rewrite "noteworthiness" out of the article. Article does not need to express noteworthiness or notability. Notability becomes evident with the information in the article and the sources included.
References
a. use of inline citations: b. reliable sources: c. No original research:
Style
a. lead section: b. appropriate structure: c. conforms to WP:MOS:
- no lead section, probably due to lack of coverage of subject.
- using the aircraft template for See also introduces "Comparable aircraft" rather than "Comparable engines".
- structure used complies with MOS.
Controversy
a. neutral point of view: b. stable, with no edit wars:
Graphics
a. quality: b. image licenses:
Consider moving the image to the See also section and left-aligning the image to break up the image with the infobox.
Quality:
Article classification:
Start-Class. Not really comprehensive enough to be a B-Class, but it has all the required characteristics. {{WPAVIATION}} banner will classify it as a C-Class when evaluated by the B-Class checklist. --Born2flie (talk) 16:38, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Comment

The text is a copy of [1] with phrases added, even if that is public domain text it should ideally be rearranged so as not to look so obvious.
The power-to-weight ratio is expressed backwards. At 0.6 hp/lb it is not remarkable and 'not the best to date'.
'Guy Motors' should be red linked as should 'Star' (whoever they were).
The preceding engine, the ABC Mosquito, used copper plated cylinders, as did their earlier engines. So not necessarily the 'first'.
56 engines were delivered and powered five different types of aircraft, I would question the use of 'experimental'.
These 56 engines were built by six different contractors, I have no record in my references of any being built by ABC themselves so the statement 'primarily built by ABC' would appear to be incorrect.
The extra image is causing white space problems.
There was a Mark II Wasp with enlarged bore and stroke, not mentioned.

I can improve this article and would concur that it is not yet 'B' class standard. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 18:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for the assessment Born2flie and Nimbus. Ill look into it when I have some time! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slapsnot (talk • contribs) 18:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are very welcome, give me a shout if you need any engine info, I can't guarantee I will have it but I have a fair collection of books mostly bought this year to help with the aircraft engine articles. There is an aircraft engine project page at WP:AIRENG and discussion at WT:AIRENG which was started very recently. Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 19:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]