Talk:A8 (Croatia)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Starstriker7 (talk · contribs) 19:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do this review. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 19:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if I'll be able to approach this article in a timely manner. I apologize.

I am going to try to see if someone else can take on this review. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 19:59, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK I will take on the review. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:06, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found.

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:08, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
The road terminates at the Kanfanar interchange with the A9 motorway, as the two form the Istrian Y road system. Clumsy phrasing, implies that the reason it terminates at the interchange is because "the two" (whatever they are) form a road system. Makes no sense whatsoever.

The motorway's national significance is reflected in its positive economic impact on the cities and towns it connects, as well as its importance to tourism in Croatia. The importance of the motorway for tourism is particularly high during summer tourist seasons, when traffic volume increases by about 50 percent. Rephrase to avoid constant repetition of "tourism".

Expansion of the route to the motorway standards including six lanes and grade separation of all its interchanges is scheduled by 2015,; All intersections of the expressway are grade separated, except for a single intersection currently regulated by traffic lights, but this is planned to be bypassed eventually by a new route in the area. Poorly expressed, please rephrase.

As the motorway is tolled Clumsy, toll is a noun, not a verb.

The A8/A9 system of the Istrian Y have an integrated toll system in place. Confusion : plural or singular?

The route is economically important to Croatia, especially for tourism and as a transit transport route. The road carries significant transit and tourist traffic route as it represents the largest-capacity road link between Istria and Kvarner Gulf region, and the nation's capital, Zagreb. Repetition.

OK, it is clear that this is nopt written by someone with a command of good plain English. Above are some examples from the beginning of the article, but I see similar elementary mistakes strewn throughout. Please find a competent copy-editor to thoroughly copy-edit the whole article, line by line. Articles should not be nominated for GAN in such a shoddy state.

Complies with key MoS elements, except for the lead which does not fully summarise the article, see WP:LEAD; examples of missing information include traffic volumes, revenues.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
I am going to have to assume good faith for the majority of references which are in Croatian.

We need page numbers for PDFs.

ref #29[1] does not support the statement - this type of online directory is not a reliable source.

Please demonstrate where refs #3, 4, 5 support the statement The road carries significant transit and tourist traffic route as it represents the largest-capacity road link between Istria and Kvarner Gulf region, and the nation's capital, Zagreb.

A number of references are identical and should be combined.

ref #27[2] lists the types of service areas on Croatian motorways - it does not specifically give the grades of the cited service areas.
It is broad in its coverage.
Overall the ciattaions are poorly applied.

a (major aspects): b (focused):
Although a outline map of Croatia and the road is provided in the infobox, the main problem I find is that there is little or no context. many locations are listed but there is little or no indication of where these are so it is hard to gain any overall picture of the road from the article. There is also contradictory information, e.g.: As the motorway is tolled using a ticket system, each exit includes a toll plaza. and The motorway is currently toll free, with an exception of the Učka Tunnel and the Kanfanar-Rogovići
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
NPOV ok
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
stable
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
I am not sure what the image File:4-lane motorway on Istrian Y.jpg or the caption: The Istrian Y consists of the A9 and the A8 motorways add to the article, neither image nor caption actually provide any encyclopaedic content. The same could be said about the other images.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
This article is not ready for GA status. Referencing is rather inconsistent, prose is extremely poor and coverage is somewhat incomplete. Please get what you have thoroughly copy-edited by someone with a good command of plain English, then take to peer review before considering renomination. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.