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Which is it?

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I'm not at all knowledgeable on the subject, but the article describes C list and D list as being the lowest ranking on the scale. Obviously D is lower, but its possible that D list is not an official ranking on the scale. 137.99.145.76 (talk) 16:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Need to discuss the derived terms and history

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The article currently doesn't mention B-list or C-list explicitly, and while there is a link to Kathy Griffin's My Life on the D-List, there is no discussion of that extension of the concept. As such, it becomes unclear to the reader which terms come directly from Ulmer and which are simply popular extensions of the concept.

Ideally, I'd like to see the article go on to give a little history of the term: when it first appeared, why Ulmer developed it, whether there are similar terms used in the entertainment industry, etc.Lawikitejana 00:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The Ulmer Scale link doesn't work.

Was James Ulmer first?

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Is the article meant to imply that the concept of an A list was invented by James Ulmer, or that his list is just a well known instance? The article needs to clear up this point. --88.111.33.202 02:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This is really confusing. STGM 03:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What Are The Actors on the A+ List

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Somebody should list the actors on the A+ list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 00Ladyluck00 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The A-list would be too big and also constantly changing as some celebrities can lose their A-list status. Azn Clayjar 14:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Top ten?

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Why are there twelve actors on the "top ten"? 208.81.93.223 18:58, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

any criticism of Ulmer's list?

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The article sort of presents the list as the top list of the top stars in Hollywood, without presenting other opinions on the matter. I know it's not a big deal, but Ulmer's list seems to exhibit certain flaws and biases. All the names on the list are white, even though Will Smith is one of only three actors (Cruise and Hanks are at the top of the list) to have made seven consecutive $100m films. I mean Jude Law is positively second-rate in comparison.

If this were a list of the top white actors in Hollywood, it would be perfectly accurate. But Smith's exclusion seems very, very odd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.41.118 (talk) 01:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the list also seems to be biased towards young/middle age celebrities. Ok, I accept that it is supposed to show celebrities that are popular right now and not from years past, but even now I wouldn't describe someone like Robert De Niro as "B-List", just because they are getting on a bit doesn't mean they aren't still big names. Compare Jack Nicholson, Clint Eastwood or Sean Connery to Jude Law or Halle Berry, I'd say the oldies there are STILL more famous and recognizable (like how instantly recognizable is an impression of Eastwood? Compare that to one of Julia Roberts?), the Ulmer list doesn't show that at all, surely iconic people like that are still A listers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.42.42 (talk) 15:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But the Ulmer Scale isn't about iconic or who's the most recognizable. It's about who is the most bankable and can open a film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.183.217.187 (talk) 21:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aishwarya Rai? Really? Did her agent add that in there? Alanasings (talk) 10:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why doesn't anybody delete the four weird names at the top of the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.199.88 (talk) 22:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Ulmer Scale hasn't been updated since 2009? The A-list concept definitely precedes the Ulmer Scale and I feel the Ulmer Scale is given unwarranted weight in this article. Where one person rated star bankability in 2009 isn't really encyclopedic in a 2013 article.Tjc (talk) 04:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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