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in Cuba

These missiles were put in CUBA to destroy a US invasion. (Peter Jennings - The Missiles of October: What the world Didn't Know (1992))

My Cuban friends observed these missiles in Cuba years after all missiles were supposed to be removed. Eventually the USSR removed the missiles because they did not want the Cubans using them. Saltysailor (talk) 18:54, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Current operators?

Is the list of current operators up-to-date? I can hardly believe, that e.g. Hungary or Slovakia, which are NATO members, have nowadays active units of FROG 7... This system is hopelessly outdated and incompatible with NATO standards.--84.163.115.160 (talk) 00:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

also Cuba is not in the list ???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.158.178.59 (talk) 16:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Hezbollah–500+ (Supplied by Iran)" Anyone else finding this EXTREMELY unlikely? An organization receiving 5 HUNDRED of these rather large rockets when no other nation currently has anywhere near that number. Any source at all for this? 98.156.97.183 (talk) 02:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I saw that and couldn't believe that Hezbollah had twice as many FROG-7s as the Egyptian army. I did a cursory google search and found a couple articles without numbers attached. However, the statistic could be a misreading of this ^[1] USAF report. The author says Hezbollah had 500 Fajr rockets and "a few dozen" Zelzal-2s ^[2] as of 2006. You'll notice the little snark about Iranian liaison officers on that page as well. Honestly, there doesn't seem to be concrete proof that they even have any, much less 500 - it seems like speculation; for instance, I saw this ^[3] cited on a blog advocating the Israeli war with Lebanon back in '06, and there is no real proof on that page whatsoever. On the other hand, what seems to be a Lebanese-leaning source (which is much different than a Hezbollah-leaning source, but still) ^[4] says there were claims prior to the '06 war of Hezbollah Zelsals but they apparently were never used and it is unknown if and how many were destroyed by Israeli airpower. The number should be removed, and something like "speculated" added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balkan shuffle (talk • contribs) 08:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

Accuracy credible, for an unguided missile?

Is the accuracy quoted (700 m [CEP I assume] at 70 km range) well established? That seems remarkable for an unguided, spin-stabilized missile. Wwheaton (talk) 03:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I retract my doubt, which seems due to ignorance. The US Honest John, which is generally similar, is reported to have slightly better accuracy (expressed as angle, that is, CEP/range). Wwheaton (talk) 03:36, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Lambeth, Benjamin S. (2011). Air Operations in Israel's War Against Hezbollah: Learning from Lebanon and Getting It Right in Gaza. ISBN 9780833058430.

[2] ttp://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Zelzal-2

[3] ttp://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/zelzal-2.htm

[4] ttp://www.lebanonwire.com/0803MLN/08032810STR.asp

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