Talk:8th of November (song)

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Requested move 14 April 2015

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:57, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

8th of November → 8th of November (song) – November 8 is primary topic here. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. See 1st of May, 4th of July, 2nd of May, 5th of May, 6th of October, 22nd of May. Most of the time, it's fine to redirect Xth of XXX to XXX X, but we don't have the same universal convention here. In fact, most of Xth of XXX are redlinks. When another encyclopedic topic exists (a holiday, a work of art, etc.) then it's fine to have the Xth of XXX be the base name. Dohn joe (talk) 15:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're opposing "8th of November" redirecting to a 8 November because "4th of July" is a redirect to Independence Day (United States). The redirection of "4th of July" is a concession to the cultural dominance of America, which is why it is a redirect. Likewise Cinco de Mayo etc. But this is a country music song by duo Big & Rich (who?) which reached No. 94 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2006 this isn't Independence Day (United States). Do you understand the difference between a No.94 song from 2006 and Independence Day? In ictu oculi (talk) 19:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support I was actually quite saddened that 5th of November doesn't direct to Guy Fawkes Night as, having connection to Lewes Bonfire, all 8th of November is to me is just another day to Remember remember the fifth of november with happy glow. Personal feelings aside this is another ".. (Michigan highway) situation in which there is great advantage in giving clarification in regard to the subject. Greg Kaye 09:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would support redirecting 5th of November to Guy Fawkes Night. Makes sense to me. Dohn joe (talk) 15:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. The date is the clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:22, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support WP:ASTONISH, per nom -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 08:58, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. This is painless and easy. Red Slash 04:15, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But unnecessary...? Dohn joe (talk) 17:37, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is a common enough way to refer to November 8 that I really think the second paragraph of WP:SMALLDETAILS wins out. Red Slash 23:51, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I see that point, but to me, the fact that relatively few redirects of that form have been created (e.g., 6th of November, 7th of November, 9th of November, 10th of November - all redlinks) shows that it's not actually a common usage on WP for readers or editors to get to November 6, November 7, etc. Does that make sense? Dohn joe (talk) 00:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dohn joe, obviously, because there is no need for a redirect, without an album or song stub in the way the right top search engine will function for those dates. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:16, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Dohn joe. A hat note will serve readers looking for another topic equally as well as a dab page, which would have the effect of sending everyone to a dead end.--Cúchullain ^t/c 21:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:ASTONISH, per nom. The song is relatively obscure, so it is not the primary meaning of "8th of November" to most people. —BarrelProof (talk) 10:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.